I wish harsher punishments for MAing/botting + some game rule clarifications

    The TG has no interest in banning cheaters because they provide more gold than others, they have been making fun of us for more than 5 years saying they will do something...


    The only solution is to find a new game where the rules are enforced.

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    The TG has no interest in banning cheaters because they provide more gold than others, they have been making fun of us for more than 5 years saying they will do something...


    The only solution is to find a new game where the rules are enforced.

    as i said till the end of this year if a world have 1k ppl left will be miracle.As i can see most of the players are quitting or w8 for bbash or halloween servers,but if they dont do something with cheaters even those ppl will quite and after halloween server i doubt there will be more then 1k ppl in server...and if this happens 2023 TK will be dead game.

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    The TG has no interest in banning cheaters because they provide more gold than others, they have been making fun of us for more than 5 years saying they will do something...


    The only solution is to find a new game where the rules are enforced.

    I know cheaters donate alot but they are not biggest donators..Cheaters are like 70ppl in kingdom or so do you think they can out donate 500 reall ppl or even more who play fair?Answer is no.And even they will stop donating when there are no ppl to fight with.

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    took me 5 more min for another wave of multis... total less then 10 min more then 30 multis and i dont even try....

    These pictures you post. they are everywhere :( com2x3 speed? kingdoms full of these new accounts. how interesting, isnt it? how many new players suddenly pop out on speed servers.. and all in one kingdom.. yes yes, we all have seen it already.. and so far, you can do whatever you want, share names, share reports, share screenshots, share suggestions, share chats :( nothing is being done to control this :( and as a cherry on the top of a cake.. these kingdoms will go brag about their victories .. gross

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    These pictures you post. they are everywhere :( com2x3 speed? kingdoms full of these new accounts. how interesting, isnt it? how many new players suddenly pop out on speed servers.. and all in one kingdom.. yes yes, we all have seen it already.. and so far, you can do whatever you want, share names, share reports, share screenshots, share suggestions, share chats :( nothing is being done to control this :( and as a cherry on the top of a cake.. these kingdoms will go brag about their victories .. gross

    Sero and his retarded friends even make youtube videos :D:D:D:D:D:D

    Thank you all!


    This is not the collaboration I was asking for, please note that we do need those reports, but not in the forum.


    We cannot accuse players of cheating openly in the forum.


    You have to send those reports through the Help Center.


    The CSR and the team will look at them and intervene if there is proof of wrong doing.


    Regarding the petition of harsher punishments, that is going to be discussed, but please, be patient. Big changes take time.


    I am not sure what will be the end result of those discussions, but we are talking about it.

    I can assure you that if the account has been banned, it was for something.


    The CSR team is very careful before acting. If they act, there is good reason for that.


    I don't know anything about the case, but if the CSR has acted, I can tell you that there is good reason for it.

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    I can assure you that if the account has been banned, it was for something.


    The CSR team is very careful before acting. If they act, there is good reason for that.


    I don't know anything about the case, but if the CSR has acted, I can tell you that there is good reason for it.

    Nice to know, now make the bans make a difference.

    when will you be fired?

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    why can't admins just kick the cheaters from the server they cheat in.

    Well, I aint Admin of Travian Games, or either Game Operator, but been in past from other platform, and I can tell you, that sometimes is hard. Most of time (in my experience) there is certain guidelines to identify multiaccounters such as:
    - Same or similar name.
    - Same connection address (bash or Base64)
    - Connection Times.

    Between other many guidelines

    And if there was Proxy using, well (I am talking by my experience) Proxy or VPN tend to be a no-go.

    But apart of this guidelines, people, just for the sake and pleasure to cheat (something that I do not get) always manage to avoid all this, and I do not know how many Admins and Game Operators are assigned per server, but I can bet that is a heavy load of work.

    So to your question, is just not that easy, The best way of get rid of majority of multis is something that Unknown Mention, Community MUST participate, and fill reports. (I was actually about to fill one for ES1, and saw this post and got distracted) Majority of time I feel ashamed to live in the Help Center, but I even told to my partners in the kingdom (per each server I play) to help me to clean server, and they just feel "lazy" to do so. Or feel shame to report.

    If you find someone that raise suspicious, just report it, you will make players like me happier to see that community is interested to help admins, after all, yeah it might be their job, but they are humans too, and are part of the same community that we are.

    ~Post tenebris, spero lucem.~

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    I will never bend my Morals, Ethics and Rectitude just to win.

    I'd rather lose with Honour than win without it.
    A victory, however desired is, it is undeserved if double standards and dishonour are exercised.


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    I don't think threatening the dev team with "tell me why I shouldn't multi account" is a good approach to multi issues. The way to tackle this is with gradual improvements and implementations that either increase multi detection, or discourage/reduce benefit of multi accounting. Best we can do as players is continue to report multis, and continue to ask what's being done. Best the dev team can do is continue to work on the suggested methods, and maintain communication with the complaints that they understand the issues, and are moving forward with progress.

    So long as results are evident in moving forward with this, it'll be a long fought war where justice for fair game will be served!

    Careful, you're within Crusading distance~

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    @KhanterWinters This is wrong in my opinion. Sorry about the words, but this attitude is wrong. We do not have an access to the server data. We can just makes stupid screenshots of something that has meanwhile become obvious, but the evidence lies in the data which we can not access. Guidelines you mentioned were good solution some 15 years ago, where there was only one device in the household. Expecting a cheater creating accounts with similliar name is just naive and wrong.

    If some russian dude still living with his mama is able to script a bot in his basement, it has to be producing patterns in the game data. So I dont understand a reason, why nobody is able to programm a script to detect those patterns. There have to be tons and tons of data.