We’ve been talking about this for years.
What needs to happen for travian to take action?
I wish harsher punishments for MAing/botting + some game rule clarifications
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Troopwipe is also needed to be standard punishment for main account who abuses/uses multi accounts
This is important. I think a lot of us understand a full on ban might be a bit might. But in a game of rolling snowballs the punishment must be greater then the gain. 1 million resources the first 2 weeks makes a HUGE difference over the course of a game. IMO i think we need something like.
1. 20% off all building levels
2. 20% loss of CP, if this drops CP below a village threshold they loose their most recent village.
3. 80% loss of all troops
No recourse/troop/CP/Buildings produced for the duration of the ban.
Kingdom looses half the treasures produced by that player, and looses CP equal to the treasures removed multiplied by the amount of weeks the server has been going for. This punishment should also get harsher with each "group" banned this server for that kingdom.
I don't like the idea of punishing a kingdom for someone else mistake as accidents do happen, but there does need to be an attempt to undo the damage done. Banning a player after he already cheated to kill a kingdom and steal its treasures doesn't bring the players that quit back. Nor does it hurt the kingdoms leader board position.
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This is important. I think a lot of us understand a full on ban might be a bit might. But in a game of rolling snowballs the punishment must be greater then the gain. 1 million resources the first 2 weeks makes a HUGE difference over the course of a game. IMO i think we need something like.
1. 20% off all building levels
2. 20% loss of CP, if this drops CP below a village threshold they loose their most recent village.
3. 80% loss of all troops
No recourse/troop/CP/Buildings produced for the duration of the ban.
Kingdom looses half the treasures produced by that player, and looses CP equal to the treasures removed multiplied by the amount of weeks the server has been going for. This punishment should also get harsher with each "group" banned this server for that kingdom.
I don't like the idea of punishing a kingdom for someone else mistake as accidents do happen, but there does need to be an attempt to undo the damage done. Banning a player after he already cheated to kill a kingdom and steal its treasures doesn't bring the players that quit back. Nor does it hurt the kingdoms leader board position.
If the lead of a kingdom knows about multi usage and dont try to correct multi abusing players, they should be penalized (also even farms them).
Zero tolerance is the only way.
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No recourse/troop/CP/Buildings produced for the duration of the ban.
Kingdom looses half the treasures produced by that player, and looses CP equal to the treasures removed multiplied by the amount of weeks the server has been going for. This punishment should also get harsher with each "group" banned this server for that kingdom.
This is no no...With all the spies and multis you will force more ppl to make multis and join diffrent kingdoms just so they can get penalty's... by other punishments are good:
1. 20% off all building levels
2. 20% loss of CP, if this drops CP below a village threshold they loose their most recent village.
3. 80% loss of all troops
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i dont get it when people are not ok with banning till the end of the server why should a player that is guilty of cheating stay in the server we are playing,
if he is doing something that is against the rules and they know it, then just ban them from that server, and maybe for next server they stop their cheating ways!
anyway to be back in the server will give chances to people to find a way out
and after 3 servers ban = perma ban!for those who get ban mistakenly (for those who says there might be mistakes so full ban is not good) , maybe some resources and gold depends on the time they were ban
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It's nice to be asked for a heavier punishment, but the real problem is the catch system, not the punishment system. TK can't or doesn't want to catch cheaters yet so they can't consider imposing heavy penalties
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I think you can only punish the kingdom if the cheats are dukes or kings
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it's just about ecnomonics. If significant segment of players wants to use bots and scripts and they PAY, dev-team just allows them to have game they want to have. Because they pay and thats what matters. Because they already lost some money. But yes, that is for sure a different topic. It has got nothing to do with the fact, that they already pissed off a significant majority of core players
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I mean we all know that is the truth, yes.
But hey, let's ask the blood sacrificed frontman himself.
Hey Unknown , I've never heard an official statement from you as to why CSR confirmed cheaters rarely get permabanned, but usually just end up with up to 3 day temporary bans or -1 building level.
Please, grant us the joy of failing to weasel your way out of this one and tell us stuff like "they admitted to their wrongdoing and we believe its in the best interest of the community to keep this player around". I can't wait.
Kind greetings,
Santa Clause
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Yes, we wrote at that time. Remember, we won that game.
Now we are playing our game more professionally. statistics say so. In addition, we announced that we will come to this game weeks ago. why did not you come?
What game did you won?
I interpret your sentence as "Now we are cheating our game more professionally. statistics say so. In addition, we announced that we will come to this game weeks ago. why did not you come and play against our professional cheats?"
No thanks. Go play the night truce server, Sharley and the unreal multis are waiting for you
. Cheaters better play against cheats in order to have a fair game. Fortunately we won against both already, has nothing to prove anymore. -
Yes, we wrote at that time. Remember, we won that game.
Now we are playing our game more professionally. statistics say so. In addition, we announced that we will come to this game weeks ago. why did not you come?
You also announced you will come to com1x3 beforehand, but you went to com2x3 instead, is it because you saw GF the russian kingdom also joined? And therefore scared to play against them and run to the next server?
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What game did you won?
I interpret your sentence as "Now we are cheating our game more professionally. statistics say so. In addition, we announced that we will come to this game weeks ago. why did not you come and play against our professional cheats?"
No thanks. Go play the night truce server, Sharley and the unreal multis are waiting for you
. Cheaters better play against cheats in order to have a fair game. Fortunately we won against both already, has nothing to prove anymore.Ottoman all deleted that 'won' round lol
History repeating itself
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If you donate=No punishments...That is the logic of TK owners...It's sad i know so many games died and everyone forgot them just becouse admins was greedy and instead of making fair game they wanted the money...We know admins need money but lol give TK little bit more time and when no ppl left to play it even if then admins ban all cheaters there will be no1 to play it.Admins if you hear this out stop using your bot detection's to ban and punish multis.Start manualy checking atleast those ppl that are reported constantly.It's job for 2 min.Perma ban those who abuse iligal game mechanics and i bet my ass that ALOT MORE ppl will come play and return to TK.
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I really love how you keep trying, sadly to see that those in charge still dont give a f***
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If you donate=No punishments...That is the logic of TK owners...
If you don't go to work, will you get paid?
No.
If the game stop making money, will it stay online?(In case you didn't know..) No.
So I can understand why they are using that "logic" - I'm not saying it is ok, I'm just saying everyone got fees, taxes, and rents to pay... Even Website/company.
The game might die, cause of that, but I mean, all you can do is leave the game to "protest" against their "non-existent" rules. - Maybe if they see all the fair players leave they will do something, but I still doubt it. -
The game might die, cause of that, but I mean, all you can do is leave the game to "protest" against their "non-existent" rules. - Maybe if they see all the fair players leave they will do something, but I still doubt it.3x rate speed has problems hitting 3k players overall. On Comnx I had an expectation that there will be 2k+ players before midnight. I feel like there were two choices.
1. Keep cheating a profiting from cheaters a risk people leave the game because of being frustrated that cheaters can be cheating with huge advantage with low punishment and make this game soon or later dead.
2. Risking bigger punishment, cheaters will leave the game, but normal people will leave less often.
They chose dead.
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If you don't go to work, will you get paid?
No.
If the game stop making money, will it stay online?(In case you didn't know..) No.
So I can understand why they are using that "logic" - I'm not saying it is ok, I'm just saying everyone got fees, taxes, and rents to pay... Even Website/company.
The game might die, cause of that, but I mean, all you can do is leave the game to "protest" against their "non-existent" rules. - Maybe if they see all the fair players leave they will do something, but I still doubt it.That is not true.They game can stop make money and still be online.It was created this way like all brawsers games.They desided to turn it to this pay to not get banned game.I know they got taxes rets and all that but it's busnes for them,and like all companies you dont shit where you eat.And atm they shit alot where they eat with allowing cheaters play w/o punishments.And you can see the result cos they dont take actions...Last comnx servers and this year ppl are half as much.And it wont get better.I can talk from my prespective but i normaly donate around 100 euro per server i play.And this will be my last one that i play atleast for few months or even more depend on what admins do.I dont care if i doneted or not but why should i play when ppl farm multis making few kingdoms just so they can farm more and i play fair?So i can waste 2 months for nothing?Better go play some other game...And sadly most of ppl are like me so sooner or later more will go.And tell me now how you can understand there logic when they make so ppl leave so bunch of ppl stay?where is the profit of that?you make 2-3-5k ppl leave so 100 ppl stay and donate?do you see profit in this?com2x3 was terrible.Started good those turks destroyed it.Multi kingdoms(dude we dont talk here about 1-5 farms we are talking about kingdom multi.) was made some baned but guess what after all reports all the pics showned no actions are taken.Turks will win i dont care about that anymore.But server that started with 2k+ ppl now is left with 600 or so.Is this a joke or what?and why becouse of 30 ppl.there punishment was non.Com1nx3 Unreal kingdom.Multis are made menhired.They make 200-300 units attack when army die menhired away so they dont take space in the kingdom and new comes.And this is fair game?Server have 2.5k ppl or so it's day 4.Quess how many will stay till end.Admins action is ban only multi accounts that are already menhired away.So tell me how you understand there logic when they shit on there work as creators of this game???how???
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What game did you won?
I interpret your sentence as "Now we are cheating our game more professionally. statistics say so. In addition, we announced that we will come to this game weeks ago. why did not you come and play against our professional cheats?"
No thanks. Go play the night truce server, Sharley and the unreal multis are waiting for you
. Cheaters better play against cheats in order to have a fair game. Fortunately we won against both already, has nothing to prove anymore.To be fair, the ottomans would never dare to compete against Sharley and Wahlberg. They know they would get deleted in the first 10 days
But maybe that's a good thing to pick up Skadi BridgetB:
Create a server for your cheating kingdoms, the ones you are clearly protecting (IYI, RFR, Teut. etc.).Give them space so that you can get their money out of them and protect your "clean face" towards the normal community by giving us servers that are not infested by multikingdoms, 300 wings of 0 prestige players or millions of res. differences in the first 3 days by governors, that haven't played longer than 2 servers.
What do you think? :)))
