Dual/Triple accounts, recognision and achievements

    Hi all,

    I’ve been dualling for quite some servers now and mainly using my own avatar. Why my avatar was the one we picked no idea but we started with it and ended up doing it for the rounds that followed as well. I always found it quite unfair my own avatar was the one being recognized by players while my dual did put in the same effort and time managing and building the account. Also the achievements we got during the dual rounds only got granted to my avatar and not my duals.

    I have to mention I have 0 knowledge about programming and making games, so I don’t know how hard my suggestions are to implement, but it seems to me they are quite easy to fix.


    First I want to suggest the avatar recognition.

    My idea: When you dual/triple an account all avatars will be shown in the players profile. This way people know what players are dualling in that account and can be recognized by friends and foes on other current and future rounds.

    How would that look like? I’m quite sure the design apartment of Travian will do a way better job at it. But I reached out to my old pal Microsoft Paint to give a lame example I made myself:

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    Positions explained:

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    But what would the hero look like on the account?

    There are a few options that crossed my mind.

    - The best option in my opinion is that the heroes avatar can be changed seperately from the account owners avatar.

    - Another option would be the avatar of the account owner will be the hero’s appearance.

    - The the avatar can be set at the start of the game to one of the account dual/triple avatars. They have the option to change this 1 time during the server round.


    Achievements and prestige points

    - Every account linked to the avatar as dual/triple will be granted a server medal at the end of the round if they have been linked to the account for over 50% of the duration of the server. (With server medal I mean the once handed out at the end of the game to all players within a kingdom: To the end! #Place with kingdom on com)

    - For every achievement that is not present on one of the dualling accounts yet can be done on a dual account. For example Account A has been a duke before and already owns the achievements for this. Account B will be dualling Account A on a server where they play as duke with account A being the account owner. Account B will still be granted all the achievements and prestige points of the achievements not done by Account B yet. (To make this more fair towards single players the ammount of prestigepoints can be reduced by 50% and can be done again on a next server to earn the additional 50%.)


    I would love to hear what you all think about this proposal. And I love to see more idea’s and suggestions regarding the topic.


    With kind regards,

    Mycro

    i completely agree with the fact, that it is kind of unfair to the duals/trials, who put the same amount of time, energy, dedication to the account to make it work 24/7. i also played dual and found it unfair (as it was x5 server and the only person who got all the badges was me, althoug my dual was present the same time, plus from time to time even had better tips/tricks/suggestions than me) that the dual doesnt get anything for his contribution.


    but on the other hand, if the people just share the achievements in terms like - we achieve Anvil in my account, but the badge goes to my dual/trial as well.. then i am pretty sure (seen so many multiaccount servers already here), that many people would just go the shortcut "hey, i am missing this and this amount of points to reach three gold stars, make me your dual for me to reach it faster" way.


    another point i have to agree with you on is, how to make it fair with people who dont have the opportunity to play dual/trial, but still invest significal amount of time/energy/dedication to the game play playing alone. just were not lucky enough to find the right partner to dual/trial with.


    but at the end of the day i agree, that the dual/trial accounts should also be awarded.

    make it fair - to single players as well as the "hidden" players behind duals/trials.


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    Quote from SacredLegend

    You've got my vote

    People have been asking for this for years now......so perhaps it may happen within the next 5-10 years

    Who knows, I like the new wind that blows in here now Unknown is around. Lets hope for the best. Its in the small details that are easy to change to keep people in here while they work out the bigger issues that are known. :)

    Well gabi.elle made a good point:


    "but on the other hand, if the people just share the achievements in terms like - we achieve Anvil in my account, but the badge goes to my dual/trial as well.. then i am pretty sure (seen so many multiaccount servers already here), that many people would just go the shortcut "hey, i am missing this and this amount of points to reach three gold stars, make me your dual for me to reach it faster" way." - Gabi.elle


    There has to be something that makes sure people are not going to abuse the achievement feature I suggested. Maybee rule that suggestion out completely to "force" duals into switching main accounts more often. But still I feel sorry for my com4 dual who did not earn the win medal eventhough he spended just as mutch money, time and efford into the account.

    I'm looking forward to see more suggestions of people that might have even better idea's then my own. :)

    Maybe just start with the achievment when the round is over


    Everyone who played that server should end up with the badge if your kingdom is #1 #2 #3 etc

    Some goals needs to be set like:

    1. play atleast 75% of server time as dual
    2. log in atleast 50% of the days from that one above

    OR

    1. Duals needs to be set before day 111 when WW apears otherwise no badge


    Some of these above requirements needs to be set so you dont add someone as dual at day 140