Stop Cheating

  • I don't understand, is that setting a sitter from a new account?

    It cannot be un unregistered, may be a registered account in the lobby that has not played any game world?

    A sitter account was opened, without starting any game world, without even doing a single beginning phase, it became a sitter directly to the main account, making it easier for others to access that main account with sitter. People open hundreds of accounts and add them to players as sitters or duals, and they can access all accounts from a single source.


    As I mentioned before, this issue should be given priority, the terms of sittership and dualship should be expanded, new conditions should be brought for opening a new account, like mail confirmation, phone confirmation etc. Not being able to use e-mail addresses except e-mail addresses that require phone confirmation while opening the mail can also be a solution, gmail, yandex, outlook etc.

  • Ok, thank you very much. I see the issue... we will definitely talk about it in the team.


    I do agree that something has to be done about it. Not sure what can be done, but we need to look at it definitely.

    -2 factor authentication for login in from strange IP's

    - captcha's on suspicious accounts

    - instant deletion of account after second offense

    - make players click on 'accept rules' for every new server (like test has about the server info)

    - give high prestige players a little bonus in some way, so it's actually bad to lose your account

    - limit the sending / raiding and chiefing rules even more for same IP or previous sitter/dual acounts

    - only open sitter /dual options for at least one silver star accounts


    these are what comes to my mind in the first minute. I'm sure there are plenty of other decent ways to make the life of a cheater more miserable or difficult.

  • Can someone from Germany ask this to someone that works in legal, perhaps a friend/ uncle because it sounds like excuses.

    I am from Germany, but fair warning, I don't have any legal background. I would be surprised though if there's actual legal repercussions for letting people talk about potential rule violations. But that being said, there's other good reasons why it shouldn't be allowed.


    Imagine someone would encourage a few kingdom mates to begin a smear campaign and to discuss your cheating and your multiaccounts in the forum, despite you being innocent, and it would all be by the forum rules. Sounds pretty defamatory to me and you probably wouldn't enjoy that. Sure you can "defend" yourself, but proofing that you didn't do stuff is way harder than just throwing random accusations against you. Every rule can be (ab)used by two parties.


    Similar thing can be said about discussing bans publicly. What if someone just got payment-banned, because some payment didn't make it for whatever reason. And then some people discuss whether they got banned for botting or multiaccounting. Or even cause an outrage because you got unbanned without visible penalty later. Sure you can just say that it was a payment issue, but not everyone might be comfortable disclosing their potential financial issues in public.


    Lastly, if TG screws up and bans you incorrectly, you probably don't want people to gossip about you publicly either. Also a good reason why TG should never make (individual) bans public imo.


    Ban stats would be cool though.

  • You are making a very fair point. .... for the wrong side of the spectrum. In a world where that would realistically happen, thats a very serious issue that needs to be avoided, yes. The reality we live in however, is that you have people actively and openly bragging about using multis, and nothing being done about that (meaning ingame, who cares what they talk on the forum). If bans were actually used as a punishment (and i mean CONSISTENTLY and PERMANENTLY, at least for the server??) people wouldnt need to complain as much anymore, even if its not publicly announced they can add 1 and 1 together themselves if a whole kingdom turns grey and is banned suddenly. I wish i wouldnt need to bring up these accusations, but how can we not do so. When a king can arise as a phoenix from the ashes of a 20 account banned private kingdom after a 24h ban, no troops or buildings lost, how is that not TG using possibly reasonable arguments like you are naming to cover up super shady shit. Namely, showing a super forgiving attitude towards people who spend decent chunks of money. TOS and rules dont mean jack compared to that sweet $_$.

  • Ok, thank you very much. I see the issue... we will definitely talk about it in the team.


    I do agree that something has to be done about it. Not sure what can be done, but we need to look at it definitely.

    One month passed. Any progress? The reality is that almost all servers have dozens of cheaters and we all see only promises to discuss something from admins.

  • Sad part is that when you see com1nx3 for example you see 2400 ppl reged or so...and reality is that not more then 1200 are real ppl if not less..other 600 or so are multi accounts and rest of them are ppl who left the server cos there is no point in plaing.And i know every game have it's cheaters and i am fine with it but in TK we are talking for more then just cheaters.Kingdoms with 80 ppl (real) are making kingdoms with ~200 "active new players" and this is insane.We dont play for the win or who is better at planing attacks/fakes etc...Tk become a game where the one with more multi accounts win.And this is the sad part of it.If kingdom of 80 ppl only 5 or 10 cheats and make few multi accounts no one will care about them but they become greedy...No problem tbh TK will die soon and some more smart and talanted ppl will ressurect it with fair/fast and fair punishments to those who are willing to cheat :)

  • Sad part is that when you see com1nx3 for example you see 2400 ppl reged or so...and reality is that not more then 1200 are real ppl if not less..other 600 or so are multi accounts and rest of them are ppl who left the server cos there is no point in plaing.And i know every game have it's cheaters and i am fine with it but in TK we are talking for more then just cheaters.Kingdoms with 80 ppl (real) are making kingdoms with ~200 "active new players" and this is insane.We dont play for the win or who is better at planing attacks/fakes etc...Tk become a game where the one with more multi accounts win.And this is the sad part of it.If kingdom of 80 ppl only 5 or 10 cheats and make few multi accounts no one will care about them but they become greedy...No problem tbh TK will die soon and some more smart and talanted ppl will ressurect it with fair/fast and fair punishments to those who are willing to cheat :)

    To be honest I would just like to see an update to the goldshop at this point. It's been already 1 month since it was updated and I feel it's lost it touch. How can we take a game serious when gold shop only get an update every 3 months? .....


    Kidding, this game is going down the drain faster then America at this point. And that's saying something.

  • To be honest I would just like to see an update to the goldshop at this point. It's been already 1 month since it was updated and I feel it's lost it touch. How can we take a game serious when gold shop only get an update every 3 months? .....


    Kidding, this game is going down the drain faster then America at this point. And that's saying something.

    I told my self i will quit TK after com2x3 but sadly i started com1nx3 with the idea that since alot of ppl will play it admins will not let so much cheaters w/o punishment.Sadly i was wrong so after com1nx3 (if i dont delete :D ) if there are no improvment's (i doube there will be) i will quit for good...I better spend my money on casino and hookers or w/e then on TK.

  • I told my self i will quit TK after com2x3 but sadly i started com1nx3 with the idea that since alot of ppl will play it admins will not let so much cheaters w/o punishment.Sadly i was wrong so after com1nx3 (if i dont delete :D ) if there are no improvment's (i doube there will be) i will quit for good...I better spend my money on casino and hookers or w/e then on TK.

    The comparative form is "than" not then". Everything else you said is absolutely true and correct!

  • I am glad you didn't quit, since we need time to improve things in this front.


    But I assure you that we have this in mind and will keep improving things regularly and constantly.

    How regularly are we talking about tho? 2 weeks? half a year? From the attitude in the community i got the feeling that you guys spending years for minor improvement. Also i noticed that every Community Manager always says something generic but never specifics, much like politicians.

    KebabOfDeath/ShawarmaOfDeath/ШаурмаСмерти 8):)

  • There are things we cannot talk about, of course, internal matters that cannot be talked about openly.


    But I can tell you we are in the right track.


    It takes time to "move mountains", but I believe we will get to the right destination.

  • It takes time to "move mountains", but I believe we will get to the right destination.

    That's what you get when you ignore real problems for years... it starts as a little bump in the road and it grows out to become a mountain when you don't address it in time.


    Keep sticking your head in the sand dude...

  • But don't worry.... just a few months and my last server will be finished.... You won't get bothered by me again after that....

    So keep ignoring for a while longer.... it all will pass... and you can go on with developing artistic wallpapers, exciting quizzes and other real important stuff...

  • In the last 6 years the cheaters have increased and the bans have decreased. The TG has done something but in favor of the cheaters though 😂


    - the menhir is used to be able to arrange the multi accounts well at the start where it is needed


    - the stop of the def points on the inactive ones allows the autocliks to have no problems


    Ecc ecc 😂