Hero Defense Bonus applies to all defenders from the players account supported by hero - a discussion

Hi All

This is not news to everybody, but was news to me, and I am sure news to a few others, so I thought I would share it so everyone is aware.

The hero bonus calculation as described in the wiki is wrong. If a player sends all their troops to defend 1 village, the hero bonus does not apply to all the players troops in that location, but only applies to the troops from the same village as the hero.

This is the WIKI link - it is wrong

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Travian Kingdoms Wiki | Hero

Def bonus:

Points put into this ability increase the defense value of your whole army (meaning all your own troops defending the village - where they come from is unimportant) by 0.2% per point (maximum of 20%) This bonus only applies if the hero is defending with the army. Other defending troops not under your control will remain unaffected by this bonus.

There is no mention of the hero defense bonus in the Knowledge Base. However during a discussion with a leader of Rebel/Pirates, I was told that the rule was the defense bonus applied to only the troops from the same village as the hero. Gob-Smacked is how I took the news.. so I raised a ticket to seek confirmation.

The reason for my surprise was... indeed my incredulity...

1. The wiki IS still linked

2. The Knowledge Base has NO mention of defense bonus.

3. A fundamental tenet of Travian is that Defense can be accumulated from multiple villages, but offense comes from 1 village. And having the hero bonus change from being the hero of the whole players account to now being ONLY the hero of the home village and not contributing defense bonus to ALL the players troops is a MASSIVE change - and does not appear on any official game information I can find.

This is the response from BlackSwan - and I asked the question multiple ways to ensure there is no misunderstanding.

I have 5 villages (A, B, C, D, E) - each village has 1000 troops - hero lives in village A - I send all troops from villages A to E - 5000 troops. Does my hero bonus apply to all 5000 troops, or only 1000 troops from village A.

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Alright, I've reviewed your question, but I don't understand why you think I didn't answer it.

The hero defence bonus affects all troops that belong to the hero's home village. That means it won't apply to the troops from all five villages at once.

Unfortunately, Wiki is outdated, and we do not support it anymore. Sorry for that.

Firstly, mainly, I want to make sure everyone is aware of this because I think it affects the way defenders will develop their troops/account.

Secondly, I think this change is wrong, and as mentioned above, I believe the underlying rule of Travian is that the defenders advantage is the accumulation of defense. Defenders combine to work together to combat the risk/unknown of attackers.. Defenders do not get to pick the location of the battle and hence need to be able to rebuild, and since the hero belongs to the player, why does the hero not inspire greater effort from all the players troops instead of the one he is located from?

Quote from LovëGood

Don't trust any game information from support, players can't find out the truth without testing this and I don't think such a big change will be made without informing the players.

We are testing now.

Quote from Holda

hero bonus is only for us, but the weapons bonus are for all troops in the village

Us - what do you mean by Us?

If by the word us, you mean all your troops from all your villages that you have trained and sent to defend the same location as the location you have sent your hero to defend - then you, like most players I know would think you are right, but according to BlackSwan - you are in fact, incorrect.

Weapons might apply for all troops in the village (that is being defended) but I have been advised that the hero bonus only applies to troops trained in the same village as the home village of the hero.

Quote from Holda

yes the bonus only applies to troops trained in the same village as the home village of the hero

Thanks - can you tell me how you learned this? I can't find anything official on it. Have you done any in game testing to confirm this?

Thanks in advance.