Kingdom Positions

  • True, but still, you should just answer for fun.


    I also answer, i think its SPADES at least.


    Its more like that, than knowing the number too.


    And also it is not. You can do the same to me. Give me attack and i tell you how i defend. The information i can give is, that King and Dukes are each defending with their own troops at least. They have been born there, and they fight for it.


    As far as i understand, there is not much else information you would gain from the scouts, but i acknowledge that the setup would matter as also, our past relation within the game. Knowing the govs who attack might matter too.


    This is the first attack, that was made as a retaliation on your agression against my Kingdom that we failed to solve negoating. It happens very fast after we close talks. The first attacks start to come only minutes after that. The attacks that are mentioned first hit first. The support attacks hit mostly a different gov, some of them near Crop Capitols further away. Each crop capitol that is being attacked also is hit to a support village near it if any.

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  • Just google any random number generator online and you can try to outsmart it if you enjoy it.


    This post is about your guide which clearly differs from what everyone else is doing. And you cannot back up your opinions yet. You really should try playing few rounds in experienced kingdoms to have a feel of how things are being done. Only then you might want to experiment with some of your new ideas. Or you can try it the hard way, setup your own kingdom and figure it out yourself if thats what you prefer. But you definitely should give it couple tries before you make a guide.

  • Or maybe its more fun the other way around. First make a guide, and see what changed after some experience.


    You see, creating a guide helps. I am learning already.


    But i understand if my attack is too intimidating. That it would be in the game too. Your governors would be scared and you might not be able to make a right decision.



    But i can tell this much, i have 20+ years of experience on this type of games. So i am not entirely inexperienced either. If you would make an RPG character with a skill tree, there would be a general skill called "STRATEGY GAMES" and after that is a speciality (either a genre or a game). If we would follow the usual mechanics, you would gain dice on a roll according to your STRATEGY GAMES Skill + Linked Attribute (Intelligence) and then you would gain +2 dice for Specialization in which i dont get. (Skills 0-5 and Attributes 1-5 - I would guess my Intellgencce for 2 to 3, and my Strategy Games skill for 4. So i would most likely get 6 to 7 dices from the start)


    I can also tell, that the things i wrote here when i have not yet played this game at all, still hold true. My experience with this game have changed nothing, but only refined the implimentation. So when i first laid my eyes on this games mechanics, i understood immediately how this game is played, and doubt anything will change that ever, given if the game will stay the same. I was very good at this before i ever even played it, and am only getting better.


    There are also other skills and attributes that come into factor in this game. As for DrugsInc, his knack of Ridiculing and Provoking people might actually yield marvelous results if done right (or wrong). With help of that skill, he might best a player with better overall stats.



    The point of revealing that attack pattern is to show you, that the mechanics within the attacks might be thought out well. This is my speciality. Its the same when you create armies for games like Warhammer 40k. You need certain amount of insight to make them good in any given meta. Planning attacks in this game is the same. Some attack patterns are really wicked as are some Army Lists in Warhammer 40k. When creating stuff like that in this game, i gain +2 for my Speciality. Resulting as a very high dice roll of 8 or 9 dice.


    The synergy of that attack i posted, and it is one i made on the fly when i was in train earlier. Wrote 2 oro 3 sentences down to a paper, and invented rest as i wrote here. I can create endless amount of that kind of stuff and have vast experience in it. No matter how you look about that attack, it is wicked. Its a Curve Ball coming at you, and you are the one to Bat.

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  • Maybe so, but your answer please.


    Anyone who wants to play can give one, and then i give the result.


    BTW, i have had great experiences so far experimenting my stuff in this game. They have proven to be very effective and have yielded good results. So far, i have also predicted 100% of opponents fakes right, with no scout information at all. But these players i have played against are clearly of lower caliber.


    I will write a individual guide later, and you are welcome to find the weaknesses in there too. But i must say, it yields tremendous results in the game and makes you a very dangerous player.


    I will never have a Kingdom, thats why i gather these stuff i came up with here. Some people might find something, most probably wont.


    I would also say this was a win for me. Even with all your experience, you could not come up with an answer and ended up avoiding the question. The other one, fell completely silent after seeing my pattern. I am starting to feel that these so called "experienced players" are nothing special.


    I can also tell you, that there IS a real answer for this. The most sufficient way to distribute your defenses. You might just not be experienced with stuff like this. Making patterns and calculating probabilities. Maybe one day, you can understand these things better. They are really useful in this game.


    Like you say, in actual game situation you would have way more information in your arsenal, but this is all you get on this Math Problem.


    Maybe DrugsInc would know the answer, and is actually of higher caliber. Looks can be decieving.



    Again: Just as i wrote these things, i predicted another fake down. 100% still. My troops are on the way to defend the real site. How can i know ?


    Its because everyone of you think the same. This is almost too easy.



    And another thing, maybe you should play as a Duke or Governor under me, and you would see how to REALLY do it. Real Strategy. Then yuo would understand, that these past Kings you promote as Accomplished, are Charlatans at best. I pretty much already know how they are doing things. They are doing them BAD and are more or less INCOPETENT as Kings as there are not a single person in this entire game that is fit for that Title.


    If you look deep down inside, you know this to be true.



    Also, i see a weakness in you. You rely too much on "scouting information" and "confirming things". Someone like that can never be truly great. What you really need is instinct, and that is something you cannot learn. You either have it, or wont. And if you have, you need to trust it.


    And you know what, after you scouted my villages and saw that Support 1 is holding its troops still, only played into my hand and maybe you are now more unsure what to do. If you would have just gave your answer right away without scouting first, you would have fared better.


    Because, it does not MAKE SENSE and is completely IRRATIONAL.



    PS. Just broke my 100% Prediction rate. They were both Fakes. But still, was not hit with a real one either so no harm done. That was just to throw me off my loop. Have to hand it to that player, that was actually clever. So there are good players in this game. So i take some of what i said back. But not all of it.


    So id suppose these Kings you promote are only half bad. Maybe they are actually good, but still found lacking in some aspects regardless of their Experience.

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  • Everyone is bad except Istonius.
    Listen to his guide :


    Scouts are useless. (Ask players to get infos from their troops.)

    Def OP is a gamble.

    Royals must choose 4446.

    BTW, i have had great experiences so far experimenting my stuff in this game. They have proven to be very effective and have yielded good results. So far, i have also predicted 100% of opponents fakes right, with no scout information at all. But these players i have played against are clearly of lower caliber.


    You might just not be experienced with stuff like this. Making patterns and calculating probabilities. Maybe one day, you can understand these things better. They are really useful in this game.


    But i understand if my attack is too intimidating. That it would be in the game too. Your governors would be scared and you might not be able to make a right decision.

    Almost forgot this one :

    - Scare govs to succed, govs will riot and royals won't be able to def them. (Istonius version)

    -Govs waiting def calls (reality)

  • Im dodging that DrugsInc. I surrender.


    That is a real hurdle for me, to gather the strength not too open DrugsInc post.


    Maybe more easy than to some, as i am not Curious type and thus, wont need my Scout information either.

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  • well, would be a shame to be crushed by a troll in game. Troll or no troll.


    Maybe i really think that people who play this game are generally bad at strategy. And maybe its really true.


    I actually really think that these so called experienced players, even you might have some kind of superiority complexes. Maybe just that Kruger thing. You talk big, but in the end, you fall.


    Especially if you underestimate your opponent, who might actually be so much above you, that you wont understand that yourself as in, cannot comprehend.


    You already lost, and now you somehow try to insure yourself that it was all a bad dream.


    You have your Pride, Status and everything to protect. And you are not going to lose to some Nobody.


    Sun Tzu himself could come from the shades of history to play with you, and you would look down on him because he have not had the time to gather the same amount of Prestige than you. But let me tell you, Underestimating his sense of strategy would be a mistake you wont make twice.



    I have seen you people in the game. Gold Diamond, Silver Diamond and all. And most of them are bad. Its probably true in other strategy games too. Those of you who are good at Travian, the top players. Are probably good in other Strategy games too. Maybe you are among the best in this game, but that might really not be much, especially if you lose to someone like me.


    I have not yet seen anything special either. And i am not sure will i ever.


    Again i will say this. Try a game called Steel Panthers. There is some real military strategy for you. Too bad that unlike this game, it also depends on luck. This game depends on was you online or not. Other than that, its simple enough - But REALLY interesting. And among this type of games that run in your Browser, the most strategic and clearly the best.


    People in this game, or at least so far what i have seen. They are clearly not in the pinnacle of human understanding when it comes to Strategy. Quite the opposite actually.


    I am actually a bit surprised how bad those people with high prestige actually are. Other reason could be, that they just dont have the time to focus in this game. That is a real factor. Even someone would be good in this game, his/her performance might be really poor depending on the time usage. But their decisicion making too, is usually mediocre at best. Or below.


    So i have kind of the same problem here, as in my experience the people playing this game are so bad, that i take the stuff i read here with a grain of salt. Still, there have been many things of value. But mostly not for me. I understand the concepts and thoughts behind them. But to me, they fall in the mediocre category i try to stay clear off.


    My purpose in strategy is to be something my opponent cannot comprehend. And seems like i am doing just fine at that. Most people will likely never understand, and those people will lose. They say i am Inexperienced, but i play outside of their EXPERIENCE. So they are Inexperenced in me too. Its just that, i am becoming experienced in them.


    In this game, you play the player, not the game. Its strange if you wont realize this and still have been playing this game all this time. It does not matter if you play "bad", if your "bad" makes you win the opponent.


    These things are especially true when it comes to Kings. If your King gets played, your Kingdom is in trouble. If these Kings you promote would truly be that great, then it wold surely be a fight to remember - or look forward to.


    There is an old saying in chinese, which goes: There is a world beyond you.


    Meaning, that the world is larger than you know.

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  • It seems you need to play a couple more servers instead of thinking of all these different scenario's. 3 bronze stars and a unique vision of defending / scouts / royal doesn't really make a lot of people follow your directions.


    I doubt you even finished one server or had a serious OP on you. Hell, I've played a ton of server and been on plenty attacks (lost capital today..), but I would still not even think of making a def guide. I truelly thinking deffing is harder then attacking, since a big part of it is out of your hands.


    Please show me examples of servers you were leading a team and had succeses.


    btw, I wont pick any to protect, since you didn't even mention where the main treasury chamber was.


    Croppers should go to active players. If a king wants to sacrifice and give a good gov the cropper, I can accept, but overall a king is active and can use all the crop in the world. Also if you're playing a competitive server it's not a matter of planning out who gets what cropper. It's a matter of getting to the cropper before someone else (enemy or friend) takes it.

  • I am a writer.


    Nice of you to notice.


    And yes, this is all smacktalk and what happens in the game, is a different thing. And on that, YOU should have the advantage.That is the reality of things.


    Still, i could probably show you something you never seen before and be that your King would not be as great as you think. Then no matter what you would contribute towards your Kingdom. You would still fall.



    No no, i have tremendous failures. In all of the servers i played so far i have completely eradicated the Kingdom that took me in.



    Main treasury chamber ? Its in the KING. But arent you the one who decides that. I am attacking your locations after all. But i assumed its the King. Thats why i wont strike there. I tell you that. Never go for the main prize first, but save it for the dessert.


    Just give the percentages you defend each location with. You might actually do good. To see the result would be really interesting to me and guessing it right with the given information would be really hard.


    But by answering, you give me information how you think. Maybe this is why mr. didnt answer (?). I will gain more advantage the more i know of how you think, and you will be at disadvantage the more you know how i think. This is how it usually goes in my experience. Because the more you understand how i think, the more you start to realize its completely out of your frame. My frame however, can contain anything so it is never a problem for me. And this is the reason why it is problem for others.



    The Facts you Know:


    -Attack on King is Fake (even you would not know this within the game, but i would probably say this to you fair and square in the chat within the game - But in the game you would not know do i speak the truth. I do.)


    -Scouting information reveals 10k+ troops in Support 1 that lauched a series of attacks on your GOV CAPITOL 2.



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    Yeah, those servers with lots of players seem really harsh. I might not do that well in them. They are actually a bit scary.


    And the thing with scouts is a bit strange. I make my decisions mostly on instict, so it is not that necessary for me. I have to think do i really *want* to attack that player i thought i should scout. And in most cases the answer is no. If i would have scouted, maybe i would have actually attacked. There must be a reason on the actions i do beyond the usual gain. They all make a pattern that is then represented to the opponent. I kind of Probe the Action Itself within my mind, and seek an answer. Do that person have def or what kind in that does not relate on the answer, but it lies elsewhere - What does the action of attacking that village *mean*


    It is not only me, other people have imagination too. Even good ones.


    The Spice... Expands... Consciousness.


    Maybe you should think me as a Mentat. That guy the rulers seek counsel from.

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  • good, good.


    Strange that you needed experience for that. Maybe those Kings you think bad are actually decent then. Or maybe your King now is bad and you still need more experience to understand that. Id say that could be the case, as you failed to understand this before, so you most likely fail to understand it now.


    How could you not notice in the first place is beyond me.



    Anticipating on iribyas def. Can hardly wait!

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  • Well, i suppose its 50 / 50


    DUKE 2 = Real (Target at Crops) - Half of the Hammers -10k each

    GOV CAPITOL 1 = Real (Target at Crops) - Half of the Hammers -10k each


    All Supports = Real (Containing a RAM Semi Hammer 10k and Catas + 10k Imperians + Catas - Target at Fields)



    RESULT:


    Attacks on Duke 2 likely loses all troops (?). Defender loses some of their troops there, probably around 20% of the total available (?). Wall is decimated. (and buildings if catapults shoot even the army is destroyed, which i am not entirely sure)


    GOV CAPITAL 1 is Leveled. You have one crop capital less.


    11 of your Support Cities lose walls and all of their Crop Fields, 2 of their other fields and 8 random locations are either destroyed or loses levels (if in the era with Brewerys and id say we are) - All in all 16 buildings are targeted each = 176 Buildings or Fields


    1 of your Support Cities lose wall and have 8 random building or fields damaged or destroyed



    You can see how devastating this would have been, if i chose to target 2 Gov Capitals instead of any Treasuries. Now this went pretty much decent on your part. So given the circumstances, you did ok (?).


    Maybe you mixed things or just threw the answer without thinking. Support 1 had troops in it, others had not. So they were en route like i say. The idea was to force you to def them thinkin 10k+ hit them, and then actually hit them with double the amount.


    But you just decimated a lot of troops.

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  • So you would have litterally spread all defenses? I've never seen another kingdom attack another kingdom by spreading all their off and include cata waves in those attacks.


    Any support village lost is sad, but nobody cares.


    Also 10k hammer, is this week 2?