Kingdom Positions

"Robber camps spawn only on fields with 7c and 3456 distribution."

Is this really in the code, or some kind of strange superstition ?

Doesnt that mean then, that these spots are only filled later. But eventually, they will be filled with villages anyway, and there are new Treasuries to be opened. Isnt that how it goes ?

This is easily adjusted. It is not a real problem. There is no real need to settlle them then, but they will be settled eventually. Those locations also generate Tributes, so they are not entirely without gains.

I gather, there is maximum number of camps that can spawn, and when you open more treasuries you can settle some of these locatioins and still have all the camps you need ?

I have also seen these spots not spawning Robber Camps. There was 5 camps spawned two times, and there were empty 3456's that didnt have one. So it at least do not relate to the spots directly. I have also seen 11 camps spawn. So what decides how many camps there will be spawned on the Kingdom, and how do you know how many spots you have to leave for them ?

I suppose the area within the Kingdom is also an indicator. Also, what indicates how many Waves these camps have. As when there were 5 spawned, many of them had 5 waves and when there were 11 spawned, some of them had only 1 wave. So, what if the number of Treasures and so you can gain from them remains the same regardless do 5 or 10 of them spawn ?

Then there is the question of Waves. Are you sure you, or these people also know all about this subject that they can.

So, then i would need an answer, if only 5 camps are spawned, do those 5 camps contain the same amount of Treasuries than 10 that are spawned. That would make sense to me.

So for you thinking, that 10 camps give you 2x amount of Stolen Goods than 5 camps, might not be entirely right.

But have you thought, that there might not even be a good Kingdom in this whole game. Like really good. As good as i am attempting to create. There might only be few decent ones, and then many bad.

Ok some fair points. Attack players do prioritize settling outside border. That is entirely rigth. The crop loocations within the borders are usually taken by Support players. If there is not enough for everyone, of course Attack player takes one within the border as i also wrote, that crop location priorization goes attack - support - defense. What that means is, that Attack Players generaly create support villages outsude borders as Support and Defensive aim to create them within.

I changed it to this: "Attack players prioritize on settling near their Crop Locations."

What you say about armies is not entirely right, as there might be multiple hammers hitting a location. So its still enough force to break the defenses if you split them.

Lets say you have this:

300k Duke Hammer

300k Duke Hammer

10x 250k Hammer

And i have this:

12x250k Hammer

If all of these hammers (5 mil vs 5.1 mil of troops) hit the same location. There is not much difference. It can usually only be fended off with 100% full defense.

The amount of fakes you send is up to you, and some attack patterns might have less and some migth have more. But remember, that i have more troops as i do less Scouts. So i can send more fakes and still have more troops on my disposal. Also, some of my armies are multi purposed. So the armies i send migth also contain some of my Defensive assets. So i might really send 1.2x more in total Strength than you.

I did listen. And came up with questions you cannot answer. So you do not know all of them either and despite all the experience the whole train of thougth you, or these Kingdoms have regarding them migth not even be correct.

You seem just to Assume it is.

The main question what really matters is: Do 10 camps that spawn to same Kingdom have the same amount of lootable goods than 5 ?

It seems that at least you are not fully aware of their mechanics, and might really not be aware of the best way. So, stupid thing for me would be to just believe what you say, and not seek how they REALLY work.

And to me it really seems, that so far what i have seen i do not see any Kingdoms around that are really good in my opinion. Its a matter of standards. Mine are probably higher. There might not even be material among the player base to gather a Kingdom i deem good. So it might not even be possible, but the players that are required would have to be drafted from outside Travian Kingdoms at least.

Well, we never find out do we. As this Kingdom is never formed and forever stays as Fantasy.

And i am Bound by realities. That is why i want to know how Robber Camps really work, and not believe some random ppl that claim to know it.

Not much trust in their words, as they cannot answer my legitimate question. As they do not know how it really is and still make a ruckus about it.

Yeah, your reality. Which might very well be different what really reads in the Game Code.

To me the reality of the Game Code matters more than peoples opinion about it.

That is the reality for me and in it, the real Game Code is the more important factor.

It should be to you also, as your reality is also affected how the game mechaincs work, which you seem to have no information about and live in denial about the whole thing.

I wont listen to bad or inadequate advice. It would be stupid to do so.

The facts on this matter atm are this:

Robber Camps are claimed to only spawn on 7 crop and 3456 locations within the border.

People wont know, do 5 robber camps that spawn on the Kingdom yield the same number of Treasures than 10. As in, do it really affect to amount of Goods they yield is there 10 or 5 spots open for them.

After you give me this answer, there is no reason to make any decisions based on partial information available. Especially as this is not a pressing matter atm. I need to know how it is exactly. And i think you would benefit from this information too.

i already gave you it. You can choose to either accept, or deny the facts.

But keep in mind, these things are facts.

Fact is a different thing than opinion. It holds true regardless.

The thing with you is, that you hope that it is like you claim. But it isnt.

The facts on this matter atm are this:

Robber Camps are claimed to only spawn on 7 crop and 3456 locations within the border.

People wont know, do 5 robber camps that spawn on the Kingdom yield the same number of Treasures than 10. As in, do it really affect to amount of Goods they yield is there 10 or 5 spots open for them.

This is a really imporotant question on this matter. And it is strange that no one else have made it before ?

How i see things, you are not the type to discuss strategy with in the first place. You are the type someone tolds what to do and you either comply or not. As in, you would not make a good Duke, but might be a decent or even a good Governor.

So you jest i will become to have power over all Humanity ?

That is a dangerous thing.

That is also way more intresting than Travian. There is so much i would do.

If i am granted with this, i will accept. But no taking it back once its given.

The first thing i would do, is to turn Travian 3 into a Childrens Game.

I can give some pointers.

Eat organic food, avoid eating meat products, if you eat meat favor fish, avoid eating additives, recycle, do not cause pollution, do not use car but travel with public transportation or bicycle (if living in a city).

Read spiritual masterpieces giving them real thought. At least try to read Bible, Tao Te Ching and writings resolvig around Siddharta Gautama. Especially focus on eastern filosofies and learn to use your mind. This will benefit you in all you attempt to do in life. This will also benefit you in Travian. Unedrstand that all of these works aim to improve life quality and make you happier, and that is the reason they exist. Anything else they cause, is misunderstood.

Read Book of the Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi. Forget Sun Tzu.

That is a good start.

If you do not do any of that, i suggest you give it a chance in your life.

Eating right and excercising your body will results as better health, and better life. Especially later on.

Learning to use your mind and understanding yourself will always benefit you regardless of the circumstnces. And thus, can result in a better life for you and for that, those around you.

There is also a very good advice Lövegood gave me on second day of Travian: "Do not use your time on Travian Games"

But if you still do, make it as interesting to you as possible.

"Your question regarding stolen goods appearing in camps. If you have any 10 camp, and only 10 camp spots with an average of 15 treasures in them and then you settled 9 of those available spots. You would not then get one mega camp with 150 treasures in it. You would get one with 15."

Have this been proven in practice or confirmed in some way ?

And what about 5 camps, not only one.

This is the first real answer i get, but am not yet entirely convinced about the subject.

So, you claim that the amount of treasures (and waves) in each camp is fixed, and stays the same no matter how many camps are spawned ?

One of the reasons i wonder this, is because how you claim it to be sounds silly. And i dont like to think the developers of this game are silly. Usually this is not the case, but in fact its the players who have misunderstood and do not really understand how the game works. This happens even at pro level in games, where they compete for hundreds of thousands of dollars. So its not that uncommon. So usually if the player base believe something that seem not to make sense to me, i tend to think maybe its not entirely like they believe.

And i have gained some good advices, but not all of their advice is good. So i only impliment the ones i deem worthy.

Lövegood, yes.

But then we can ask, "What Kingdom" ?

But if you have not noticed, i come up with this stuff endlessly. It never ends.

Give me a game, any game involving deep strategy and here we go again.

And if the game is well made, as in gives you more than one actual solution. The stuff that i come up with is usuall against the meta. In some games, and probably this one too. You can later find out that others have come up with similar solutions and use them to great effect. This is not so uncommon either. It is also common to find out that despite what people say, someone have been using similar approach for a long time now, and is actually not that unique or strange than you might think. To come up with something truly unique that is actually good is rare.

This is also what i seek for. I aim to play against any current meta, and seek to break it with an unique approach. Making things like everyone else does not satisfy me. It will also create the most opposition, as most of the people are only comfortable when everything is the same way as them.

Majority vs Minority - And then someone unique even among them (is bound to stand out)

That s a bit what Jesus was. Created that much opposition among the Minority too, that was being killed for it. Not to mention gathering a cult around him, undermining the social structure, renouncing the old laws and so on. A Revolutionary who apparently planned so, that if he is removed the thing only gets worse for them and look what he did. Revolutionized the whole world. Historically speakinig, probably the most influental single person in entirety of human existence. Nowdays worshipped and elevated as god, by a large portion of humanity. So how good was that guys Strategic Planning ? I would say among the best there ever was.

The modern society would not have happened as it is, without him. Might be, we would not even still have computers as the world would be ruled by similar conservatists than modern Islam.

So, maybe in acuality, you have Jesus to thank for your Travian, Womans Rights and everything else. He acted against the forces that would have most likely denied you to have these things.

And what it comes to christians and Bible. These things are endless within them. They interpret everything differently, end up arguing how the Bible really means and so on. It is way worse than here, and in my opinion most of them, if not all got it wrong. Bible never explains anything. It just states how things are or lists things down. The whole interpretion of it is of those who read it, so probably contain more of the one who reads it than the actual writers, or the things they want to tell you.

The most pressing matter seems to be, that modern Christians believe that Jesus and God is a same thing. As i understand, they cannot be. There is no sense whatsoever in what they believe, and there is nothing in bible that says this. Where they came up with this strange believe, i do not even know. And the arguments they use are among the lines "we have bible study of 2000 years, and they know what they are talking about". So lets just assume that those people who once say so, understand everything and do not question them at all, no matter how ridiculous it is they claim.

This is also a reason, why there are hundreds of christian cults, churches and so on.

The thing with Islam is even more ridiculous. At starters, Islam is nothing more than a Christian cult that have derived from Christianity. The two biggest Islamic Schools even fight wars over because, Mohammed say that he is the Seal of Prophets and there cannot be anyone who change what he say (even he changed what Jesus say, who changed what was in Old Testament) and then the second biggest Islamic View (Iran i think) have new Prophet. And this is the main reason they argue and fight. So Saudi vs Iran, probably to the end of times and never forget. Maybe its the Muslim world that would need a new Jesus, and not the Western world. To fix their grudge and unite them under one view.

And try to tell them any of this and you can guess, you can even be assaulted or killed. Its actually insane.