Final words

    I can agree on this, but a person altered by those who break the rules of the game, will always be, a ban on silence is not the right solution in my opinion, we already have problems in the world of those who want to silence by force, without rancour :)

    Quote from Bellatora

    Posting private messages or names of players in the forum accusing them of cheating is not allowed ( imagine what you would feel is someone just decided randomly to smear your name because they dont like you) .

    We players know that they cheat yet they get to play like they are not cheating and in the rare case they get banned it is after they have used their hammer and destroyed treasury/cropper and settled it with known multi account.
    Could you give me forum ban that lasts rest of the year so i have no reason to come to forums. Thanks in advance.

    I had a lot of fun playing TK. I learned a lot, both about the game and about myself, and I met a lot of wonderful people. But for the last several years, the only reason I have showed up at all was because of the people, because the game was no longer fun. The reason why is because there wouldn't be a day without either a cheater or a team of cheaters being in the spotlight. I honestly don't mind if people cheat, so long as the punishment is swift, accurate and devastating, but currently the punishment is incredibly slow, like throwing a dart in the dark and when it hits, it's like a slap on the back to do better, but not by quitting cheating but by cheating even harder next time.


    The thing about cheating in TK is that in theory, you can never lose if you just cheat hard enough. Every problem can be solved with "just make another multi".

    They have more players than us? Make another multi.

    They have more VP than us? Make another multi.

    We can't defend against their hammers? Make another multi.

    We can't break their defenses? Make another multi.

    Your governer off player who is building 3 hammers is low on resources? Make another multi.

    Your other multi account got banned? Make another multi.

    Another player on your team got banned? Make another multi.

    You need someone to menhir king for you, speed settle to secure your cropper, occupy an enemy cropper/ww spot? Make another multi.


    The list goes on and on, as many problems there are in TK, the same amount of problems can be solved by simply making another multi.

    This is the equivalent of if you could just print your own money, but the punishment for doing it is losing 10% of your total wealth, as if you didn't print more than 10% of your total wealth, and as if you didn't share any of that wealth with your friends and use it to undermine your enemies for the month you had the printer running. And the people impacted got no compensation whatsoever. I'm glad TK is not running anything more than just a video game, they would be seeing the shadows of pitchforks on their walls within a week if they did.


    Also, I just want to mention that I find it really funny how TK has no punishment for a kingdom who is cheating whatsoever. They only ever punish the players. So there is literally no risk if you are creating multies to advantage your kingdom as a whole instead of individual players.


    Make it so that multies isn't the answer to everything, or they will be all you have left. Let's just hope they don't stop paying you when the rest of the competition leaves.


    - Hæim

    You're reading this. Think about it.

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    Quote from Perfect Kate

    I can agree on this, but a person altered by those who break the rules of the game, will always be, a ban on silence is not the right solution in my opinion, we already have problems in the world of those who want to silence by force, without rancour :)

    Honesly I think he's got some really good points, but it's not fair to the rest to make exceptions to the rules. They apply to everyone the same way

    Quote from Bellatora

    I handle discord and the the forum, i can give you my word that on them people wont break the rules.

    And I as an old admin and moderator on several communities, forums and in games... has always primarily ensured that the rules in the game are followed. Becaus then the forum rules are usually followed automatically, as there is nothing to get excited about.

    But then I'm known for being weird too, so for what ever it takes... don't listen to me.

    Quote from LovëGood


    In the past months, there have been people who said that they used cheats on the official TK discord server and even shared the cheat guide. I guess they have to follow other rules.

    Now now... you shouldn't be like that. Didn't you read what Bellatora wrote. She only works with forum and discord and there those lovely guys probably are angels. She has no interest in game... and what's written in game is not allowed in forum, so probably what's written on forum and discord aren't allowed to discuss in gamerules... that's probably why our screenshots, letters and proof in cheating isn't taken seriously. Game is game, forum is forum, discord is discord... and should never been mixed up

    It's as simple as that...

    Quote from Ragatan

    Now now... you shouldn't be like that. Didn't you read what Bellatora wrote. She only works with forum and discord and there those lovely guys probably are angels. She has no interest in game... and what's written in game is not allowed in forum, so probably what's written on forum and discord aren't allowed to discuss in gamerules... that's probably why our screenshots, letters and proof in cheating isn't taken seriously. Game is game, forum is form, discord is discord... and should never been mixed up

    As I said beforei can make sure that the rules on dc and the forum are followed. CSR is the one that takes care of enforcing rules in-game.

    Of course, I care about what happens in the game and report those concerns to HQ.

    But as I dont have access to the servers I can't confirm or deny any allegations on the forum of cheating. What I do is report them to the corresponding authorities.

    I absolutely understand you are angry about the cheaters (and I totally get your indignation) but it does not mean I can look the other way when the rules are broken in the areas I take care of

    I think before you quit Sohvapeuhari the last thing you should do is write a comprehensive guide for cheating :)
    You have been fighting cheaters for so many years that you know more about it than any game dev. And you have a nice circle of friends to consult you.
    It's not against ToS, they cannot ban you or remove the thread.
    توییتر \ Mark O'Connor در توییتر: «@Baddiel https://t.co/GxdDwjA4XR»

    Quote from Mitsu

    I think before you quit Sohvapeuhari the last thing you should do is write a comprehensive guide for cheating :)
    You have been fighting cheaters for so many years that you know more about it than any game dev. And you have a nice circle of friends to consult you.
    It's not against ToS, they cannot ban you or remove the thread.
    توییتر \ Mark O'Connor در توییتر: «@Baddiel https://t.co/GxdDwjA4XR»

    Rules don't matter, if they want to ban you they ban you. Speaking from experience

    Quote from Mitsu

    I think before you quit Sohvapeuhari the last thing you should do is write a comprehensive guide for cheating :)
    You have been fighting cheaters for so many years that you know more about it than any game dev. And you have a nice circle of friends to consult you.
    It's not against ToS, they cannot ban you or remove the thread.

    Best thing could happen to this game is to add th0mm as multihunter for even a month, but then the numbers would not look good :(


    Better use for my money is to give it to Russian army than TK. Would be more honorable


    Also this thread will be shutted silently and there will be some 20gold competition who is the sweetest boy around christmas.

    Quote from Mitsu

    I think before you quit Sohvapeuhari the last thing you should do is write a comprehensive guide for cheating :)
    You have been fighting cheaters for so many years that you know more about it than any game dev. And you have a nice circle of friends to consult you.
    It's not against ToS, they cannot ban you or remove the thread.
    توییتر \ Mark O'Connor در توییتر: «@Baddiel https://t.co/GxdDwjA4XR»

    I had an amazing guide about "Friendly Farming" but they removed it -_-

    An extensive guide on how to cheat in Travian Kingdoms:
    Step 1. Do whatever you want; worst case you loose 20% population on your main account and create more multis.
    Step 2. Reuse the same multi accounts on every server
    Step 3. Write everyone about how good you are at the game

    Quote from KryTon

    An extensive guide on how to cheat in Travian Kingdoms:
    Step 1. Do whatever you want; worse case you loose 20% population on your main account and create more multis.
    Step 2. Reuse the same multi accounts on every server
    Step 3. Write everyone about how good you are at the game

    Sad but true