Posts by RenewU#SE

    So the argument is that the defense bonus at oases is only for animals, and not for stationed troops. Is the "no defense bonus for stationed troops"-answer from the 2015 post below still accurate? This should be added to the wiki which doesn't give me the answer, currently.


    Oasis defence bonus


    Thanks!

    Hello dear community. As I was looking for how to efficiently get experience for my hero in the early game, appart from slaming all my troops into someones defensive lines at a huge cost, I couldn't find many calculations on the matter. So I compiled some calculations to answer what to kill with your hero (on or off your horse) at greatest efficiency per loss of health for my hero - meaning the defensive strength of my target.


    Disclaimer:
    I created these calculations because my hero currently has a lot of regenetative items, and I had two buckets, so I needed to get some use out of this. If your hero isn't strong enough, or you might get your hero too low/dead from attacking - don't. Use these calculations with your own mind and situation. Use at your own risk.


    Explanations:
    Excel to Travian forums works mostly great, but alas I couldn't get the beautiful icons to follow :)
    ID = Infantry defense.
    CD = Cavalry defense.
    Experience for your hero = upkeep of units killed.
    Note that these calculations are for efficiency, not net gain. It could be worth it to take a bigger loss of health to gain more experience, even though it is sub-optimal efficiency.



    Oasis:


    For early attacking of oases: look for boars or rats to kill with your hero on horseback. Avoid big animals (Bear or above) and snakes if you can.


    Also worth noting about oases is that they are worth clearing with your hero to get the resources they produce. Each animal produces 1 resource of the oasis per hour (meaning 2/h for 25% + 25% oases). For example: if you attack an 25% clay and 25% crop oasis after 50 hours, and there are 20 rats in it during this duration, at the time of your attack there will be:


    20 clay/h * 50h + 20crop/h * 50h = 1000 clay + 1000 crop in it when you strike it.


    The maximum number of resources are the same for all oases, based on the number of animals in the oasis. Each animal can "hold" 50 resources, meaning 25% + 25% oases will fill up twice as fast because they produce double the amount of resources than a 25% oasis.


    The maximum number of resources in an 25% clay + 25% crop oasis with 120 rats and 24 spiders is (120+24)*50 = 7200 resources max, and since it's a 25% +25% oasis, the oasis will produce (120 + 24) * (1 clay/h + 1 crop/h) = 168 resources per hour.



    ID CD Upkeep Exp per ID. Exp per CD.
    Rat 25 20 1 4.0% 5.0%
    Spider 35 40 1 2.9% 2.5%
    Snake 40 60 1 2.5% 1.7%
    Bat 66 50 1 1.5% 2.0%
    Wild Boar 70 33 2 2.9% 6.1%
    Wolf 80 70 2 2.5% 2.9%
    Bear 140 200 3 2.1% 1.5%
    Crocodile 380 240 3 0.8% 1.3%
    Tiger 170 250 3 1.8% 1.2%
    Elephant 440 520 5 1.1% 1.0%





    Enemy players:


    Another way of getting experience can be to slam your lone hero into enemy forces. Scout and Simulate well before attacking, and try to avoid killing your hero or damaging him/her too much if you don't have regenerativ items.


    Appart from siege weapons and scouting units, Clubswingers are, to no surprise, the best unit to kill. Both in terms of numbers but also efficiency. But also Roman cavalry units and Theatues Thunders are great for experience.


    Romans Atk. ID CD Speed Upkeep Is Infantry? Exp per ID. Exp per CD. Exp per tot. Def.
    Legionnaire 40 35 50 6 1 Yes 2.9% 2.0% 1.2%
    Praetorian 30 65 35 5 1 Yes 1.5% 2.9% 1.0%
    Imperian 70 40 25 7 1 Yes 2.5% 4.0% 1.5%
    Equites Legati 0 20 10 16 2 No 10.0% 20.0% 6.7%
    Equites Imperatoris 120 65 50 14 3 No 4.6% 6.0% 2.6%
    Equites Caesaris 180 80 105 10 4 No 5.0% 3.8% 2.2%
    Battering Ram 60 30 75 4 3 Yes 10.0% 4.0% 2.9%
    Fire Catapult 75 60 10 3 6 Yes 10.0% 60.0% 8.6%
    Senator 50 40 30 4 5 Yes 12.5% 16.7% 7.1%
    Settler 0 80 80 5 1 Yes 1.3% 1.3% 0.6%
    Teutons
    Clubswinger 40 20 5 7 1 Yes 5.0% 20.0% 4.0%
    Spearfighter 10 35 60 7 1 Yes 2.9% 1.7% 1.1%
    Axefighter 60 30 30 6 1 Yes 3.3% 3.3% 1.7%
    Scout 0 10 5 9 1 Yes 10.0% 20.0% 6.7%
    Paladin 55 100 40 10 2 No 2.0% 5.0% 1.4%
    Teutonic Knight 150 50 75 9 3 No 6.0% 4.0% 2.4%
    Ram 65 30 80 4 3 Yes 10.0% 3.8% 2.7%
    Catapult 50 60 10 3 6 Yes 10.0% 60.0% 8.6%
    Chief 40 60 40 4 4 Yes 6.7% 10.0% 4.0%
    Settler 10 80 80 5 1 Yes 1.3% 1.3% 0.6%
    Gauls
    Phalanx 15 40 50 7 1 Yes 2.5% 2.0% 1.1%
    Swordsman 65 35 20 6 1 Yes 2.9% 5.0% 1.8%
    Pathfinder 0 20 10 17 2 No 10.0% 20.0% 6.7%
    Theutates Thunder 90 25 40 19 2 No 8.0% 5.0% 3.1%
    Druidrider 45 115 55 16 2 No 1.7% 3.6% 1.2%
    Haeduan 140 60 165 13 3 No 5.0% 1.8% 1.3%
    Ram 50 30 105 4 3 Yes 10.0% 2.9% 2.2%
    Trebuchet 70 45 10 3 6 Yes 13.3% 60.0% 10.9%
    Chieftain 40 50 50 5 4 Yes 8.0% 8.0% 4.0%
    Settler 0 80 80 5 1 Yes 1.3% 1.3% 0.6%



    So to summarize: Stay on horseback, mostly for the extra speed but also the cavalry attack strength, and get early experience for your hero by killing rats, as they have low defensive strength and high efficiency. If you can find and catch clubswingers alone, you found gold! Once your hero have some nice attacking power from levels and items, don't be shy to hunt cavalry units. Prepare by scouting and simulate attacks well, and you can get a lot of experience for your hero while also killing expensive troops for your enemy!


    Enjoy,


    RenewU

    Late to the party, but as this is a question about exp for your hero, I though I'd pitch in with some maths. I calculated which animals are most efficient to kill with your hero in the early game. Of course, big battle between armies is more exp. but at a cost of losses.


    As shown below, almost in all situations should you attack oases on horseback, and for most experience per health loss, look for boars and/or rats.


    Infantry def. Cavalry def. Crop upkeep (exp) Exp per ID. Exp per CD.
    Rat 25 20 1 4.0% 5.0%
    Spider 35 40 1 2.9% 2.5%
    Snake 40 60 1 2.5% 1.7%
    Bat 66 50 1 1.5% 2.0%
    Boar 70 33 2 2.9% 6.1%
    Wolf 80 70 2 2.5% 2.9%
    Bear 140 200 3 2.1% 1.5%
    Croc 380 240 3 0.8% 1.3%
    Tiger 170 250 3 1.8% 1.2%
    Elephant 440 520 5 1.1% 1.0%



    ID = Infantry defense.
    CD = Cavalry defense.
    Exp per X defense = ratio of how much experience per defense, higher is more efficient in terms of hero damage taken. Calculated as (Crop upkeep / defense in category).


    For your information.


    RenewU

    I'm on a 3440x1440p ultra-wide monitor, and when I'm in the village view, there is soooo much white space around the content, putting the side menues in very awkward positions. Would be nice if at least the graphics would span the entire width of the screen.