don Corleone IT5N
don Corleone IT5N
you're patetic my friend, is very hard to talk with who doesn't want to listen.
Ok, will fight next server.
The most important is that we expressed our truth, so whom ever is going to read the thread will make his own idea of facts.
, it was said by Paganita you did all calculation, so you should have seen that we would have had more VP at the end of the server, that is why Bohemia were sent against us......
Hypocrisy to the star 🌟
Yes you’re right you only waited and used your hammers wisely. Also Bohemia’s hammers you forgot to say...
Ita and Bohemia stole PV and ZLF completed the WW. So well... what did you do exactly??!?! Ah yes waiting and make good use of other kingdoms, right.
Balerion I don’t know what honour are you talking about. Because we sent our hammers against you only after we knew you moved Bohemia against us, my dear. Is it clear enough? Great
We’d have won if Bohemia hadn’t attacked.
, I’ll keep in mind the lessons learned this server for the whole life. Never trust people like you.
You are too stupid...I'll explain one last time, so you might understand, or might not..
1- Bohemia attacks weren't even enough to be ahead of us.... we had to auto-destroy our WW to help you being ahead of Italians... 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 10th there is no difference.
2- I'm talking facts base, not like you.
3- diplomacy is one thing, being an asshole without any honour is another thing. Being just a dog should be humiliating for you...
4- We feeded Sophist hammer and the other two since they joined our Kingdom. Sophist and his crew betrayed us, do you understand human language? Sorry I cannot bark to translate.
5- Next server Italians won't sign any pact, I've never seen a Lion discussing with Monkeys.
With ZLF the only mistake we are aware of is we shouldn't have attacked them, since their hammers should have gone elsewere.
Cheers Snorry, I won't explain it again. Better you read twice.
Just to clarify some Italians statements here:
1) Bohémia had a reason to attack Italians WW - to end up on better than 5th place which we did. I don't know the full background, but this is just a fact that we had a motivation to hit you no matter what.
2) You found Bohémia's def in Ayyldiz WW. Personally I sent it there to keep myself in a fight for being Top 1% defender which I didn't manage by 500 def points in the end. Another reason was that I believed Ayyildiz deserves better than you. I saw them fighting us, they were definitely a strong enemy and spent the whole early game fighting. Maybe they didn't fight later, but they had to recover a bit aswell and close the gap to PL which they succeeded at nicely. On the other hand I didn't like the way you played. Hiding all game long, doing shady diplomacy, using Knights as your shield, allowing ZLF to take WW freely instead of atleast destroying the village to 0. Fighting only when you realise there's no other choice is not a tactic which deserves any help in my opinion.
It's just my thoughts, not whole Bohémia
CG to all the teams and thanks for very interesting server.
Lastly, could we share all the WW hammer armies here?
Snorri... if you wanted to end up better than fifth you could have gove to PL or ZLF.
We have the full list of your hammers, which was shared in private conversations between Ayyldz and Bohemia admins.
Please, let's talk fact base.
BEST RECORD HAMMER:
1. Il Professore (ITA) - Governor Italians - Romans - Crop Consumption 327.821k (without HDT)
2. FreeSophist (TUR) - Governor NO KINGDOM - Romans - Crop Consumption 299.746k (without HDT) FEEDED BY ITALIANS
3. TeMBeLKaRiNCa (TUR) - Governor ZLF - Romans - Crop Consumption 235.642k (without HDT) Crashed against ITALIANS
Dear com 3 players and despite every effort loser Italians,
At the beginning of the game we unfortunately made bad diplomacy by making Italians our alliance. That was because we were new to com servers, we couldn’t act cold blooded. In the early and mid-game our war with Bohemia was bloody but fun. Every Sunday or Monday we defended against +40k armies. Especially Ragnar and Polenoo were great offensive players. We were a little bit pasive when our priority was defence. Our hand become stronger when we raised our offensive forces with the operation to Bohemia which we stole 20k treasures and %50 troops returning back.
Our fight with Bohemia was pleasing Italia because they were making the calculations of winning without wasting troops. Because of the same reason they made an agreement with Knights and Russians to make fight with ZLF for them. When we made NAP with Bohemia Kyum get pissed and made another tactic right that moment. Plan was asking defence from Ayyıldız and provoke ZLF against Ayyıldız. They sent their troops to Knights and asked us to defend their own treasure villages. We defended but ZLF preferred to attack Knights for real so Italians were the one who lost defence. After that move they started to provoke us against PL. When we refused to attack saying we’re not ready yet, he got mad!!! They chiefed ZLF ww and asked for defence from Ayyıldız right away saying ZLF IS ATTACKING US, DEFEND US!!! We defended with 250-300k troops. 30 minutes before the attacks they told Ayyıldız that THEY WON’T DEFEND BECAUSE THEY HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH ZLF. This was their first betray.
I’m saying betray because at that time it was not possible for us to reach everyone in the kingdom to pull all troops back. Their main aim was to start an Ayyıldız-ZLF war. We pulled almost all troops back but 100k was still there, we couldn’t reach our members and Italians didn’t send back our troops either. ZLF lost 3 armies and they didn’t like it. They ran an operation with PL on us. At that moment Ayyıldız board had a conflict. Half of them wanted to disband nap with Italians and erase them from the map, half of them was insisting to focus on winning the server instead of losing troops. They agreed not to disband nap but not to help them anymore either.
After that we didn’t send defence to Italians anymore.
They came with the idea of co-op to PL. We were already planning to raid PL attacking to their second ww with their help sounded good to us and we confirmed.
Attacks started to both. We got33 level from first ww with our own troops.
I was the hammer of 2nd ww but I knew there was something wrong with attacks.
1 hour before Kyum sent a message saying they won’t attack ww they are attacking buildings.
That was their 2nd betrayal. They sent 1 armies and hit buildings! They decrease down our attack power. Kyum’s plan was working! He just needed a plan to disband the NAP with Ayyıldız. From the very beginning of game Bohemia was planning to attack ITA. In the mid-game they both came to us to have us at their side for Bohemia-Italia war but we refused to be a side at that war. Ragnar was a man of revenge and got his revenge. Kyum used this against us and made the deal with PL with the reason we betrayed them! PL+ZLF+ITA made a co-op. We lost treasure but we didn’t loose level. Because our defence was strong.
Kyum thought our offense troops were finished but he forgot something. We were keeping some more offense troops. Our offense leader promised Kyum to make them 5th and he kept his promise!!!
We’re so happy to win this server! But what makes us happy most is Kyum is on the level he deserved despite of his all those dirty games!
I thank to everyone who spent effort in the game from the beginning till the end!
Thank you Bohemia
Thank you PL
Thank you ZLF
Thank you Hypora
I believe you should talk about your actions. And you are too ignorant to understand why we attacked buildings beside the WW.
1- On ZLF WW we already explained that according to our calculation we would have lost ALL OUR DEFENCES, so we preferred to leave the WW to ZLF and still play for the Victory.
Not any betrayal on that one. We already explained we couldn't send back the troops which arrived few seconds before the attacks, and also they could have been fakes.
2- We've NEVER PLAYED TOGETHER ZLF OR PL. We engaged a war with PL and decided for a NAP with ZLF given our focus was to STEAL TREASURES TO PL to close the VP gap with them. And we did well.
You did enjoy our operation, without moving a finger. So shut up.
Till here we were playing a fair game.
We attacked Bohemia according to the plan you discussed with Kyum. And we decided to attack WW + Structures for a strategic reason. To slow them down.
We were also FEEDING 3 of YOUR ARMIES! FREESOPHIST, FASTER AND A THIRD TRAITOR. YOU SAID TO US THEY WERE NOT PART OF YOUR TEAM, AND THEY WERE CRYING TO BE HELPED.
Against the will of our board, KYUM decided to trust Sophist. WRONG MOVE!
PL and ZLF attacked you and also us.
But we were first ranked after this military action.
ZLF Best hammers were on our WW....
So to win the game, you cheated us making an agreement with your dogs, the BOHEMIA, which sent all their hammers against our WW, downgrading it to a point where we lost. Ranked 3rd.
BOHEMIA WERE MOVED FROM YOU. We have the EVIDENCES and they had NO REASON to attack us, other than helping you to win.
We never co-op against you. We had an agreement as Paganita shared. Who will be first will win.
BUT YOU ACT WITH BOHEMIA AGAINST US to kick us out.
Also SOPHIST AND HIS CREW after us having feeded them for about 40 days, betrayed us.
THEY OBEYED TO AYYLDZ ORDERS INSTEAD OF OUR ORDERS, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE IN THE ITALIAN KINGDOM. I'm used to pay the bill when I go to restaurants, but apparently in Turkey you don't.
So what are you talking about?
Stop Bullshiting, we all seen you watching other teams actions all server, except for few attacks on Bohemia in the beginning of the server. We also supported you with DEFENCES when asked, so SHUT THE F**K up.
True we destroyed our WW to favourite PL at the end, because you DIDN'T DESERVE TO WIN.
You won without any honour.
I agree with your strategic decision. But if you play for win, why wouldn't you slow down both kingdoms when you can? This is just a stupid part of your strategic decision because ZLF can beat you just as much as ILOVEPL and you just denied slowing their WW building by couple of days which could be crucial in the later stages of the game. So either it was purely stupid or you aren't saying everything or maybe you didn't realise that it's an option too
We already slowed them down over 24h.
That's enough. Last WoW is getting 0% bonus, this spot should be reserved for PL, not ZLF.
If you don't like it, I can understand it.
I'm giving you our reasoning.
I read a lot of bullshit in this thread.
Just to make one thing clear, Italians are great strategist, believe it or not.
WoW was conquered with a great military operation on ZLF . They can confirm.
Having clear in mind ZLF will come back, we made our military move.
ZLF was good enough to make a perfect come back early enough. 25 sieges on a village without Water Ditch, made by WOW's hammers...
Was unstoppable, and we play to win, not to make a stupid non-sense fight, and give the victory to PL team for free. We are not their buddies!
SO LET ME CLARIFY:
- We decided not to defend on ZLF in order to keep our defences and play to win.
- We didn't destroy the WoW because we don't want to slow down ZLF WoW, but PL instead.... as we did!
Italians and ZLF just understood that to win there is no sense to kill each other now..... maybe later.
Regarding the Population that you mentioned TheSimon#EN ,
stop bullshitting!! Do not try to ask for merci... but fight with the rest of world...
To win a server you need PV (not population) and currently PL is winning..
1. ILOVEPL - CURRENT PV - 5,894,737 2 WoW
2. Ayyildiz - CURRENT PV - 5,336,268 1 WoW
3. ZLF - CURRENT PV - 4,374,290 1 WoW
4. Italians - CURRENT PV - 4,082,729 1 WoW
5. Bohemia - CURRENT PV - 3,829,151 2 WoW
Only a Reign can win the server, not a coalition. and PL is leading right now BY FAR!
Seni tanımak istiyorum yiğidim beni bul.
Guys, to help everyone to partecipate to the discussion I kindly ask you to use English in this thread.
Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
What team are you from?
I will be there.
Sicilliano which sector are you going?
Is there any active kings / governors playing, and in which sector?
I'm going to start with the Italians.
I'll start with the nick GodOfDeath, please PM me in game on the 25th.
Heard russian friends want to lunch on this server
I heard the (K)night are going to start this round. Not sure about the Russians (Nasdaq & Co.)
Would be great to have them as well, I heard good things about.
this new Com 3 is about to start.
I would like to open this thread to get to know who is gonna be there, sectors etc..
Hope is gonna be fun.
Looking forward to hear from you.
Questo sistema sicuramente incentiva un maggiore coinvolgimento della Community che per Travian è vitale.
Inoltre credo che un sistema del genere sia semplice da implementare tecnicamente. Il MH avrebbe certamente meno "e-mail" da leggere e riuscirebbe ad essere più efficace.
Magari un sistema di feedback sulla soddisfazione della Community sarebbe un'altro argomento di non minore rilevanza per Travian.