Posts by Pinkguy#NL

Quote from Rocket#EN(14)

Ok, maybe the cowards should get a little say here to clear our point of view. The moment we settled near (50|0). We got called cowards, why because we moved away from the fight in the center. Was it in the best interest of Blade? Yes.

We were right beside the biggest kingdom on the server. Mind you! they weren't friends, and their top attacker of the server at that time was so close to us. What do we do? Build Deff to survive? Yes, Was going deff in the best interest of blade? Yes.

We were only a 10 member team, who gathered first timers and other players who were not in any premade team. Initially, we had to build defense for survival. Add to it the Russian kingdom threatening to join them or perish . We had no other choice but to go defensive. We contacted Chall to ally with Viper, but of course they had other plans which we did not know, because we do not have any spy.

Then kingdom unions happened, the big kingdom got even bigger. Because we did not allow any other kingdom to settle in this area and managed to take their treasures, we found ourselves at 2nd place but the big kingdom was first and was more than double our size in number of members, in VP and Treasures.

We were happy to be 2nd, but 3rd Nogrow at that time was just a few points away. 4th at that time was Vanguard, we knew they were a premade team and we knew a few players there. They are a good team and they obviously wouldn't want to remain 4th. From our point of view we were between 2 kingdoms, who would both want our treasures 1 to go ahead and another to catch up to 1. What do we do without many offensive troops at this point of time. We build more defense.

Then we find out that the big kingdom, who we were expecting to attack us, has started operations on loveland and the loveland king contacts us to defend them. We obviously send defense, because the longer the fight on the other side prolongs it gives us a better chance. Some of our players end up as top defenders. Next thing we know, We get called cowards for defending loveland. However, was it in the best interest of Blade? yes.

But now, we know the big kingdom knows we defended loveland. We are definitely going to be NEXT. We start preparing for it. Defending loveland brought us together with Vanguard and we asked if they would want to ally because we needed to ally with either "big kingdom or Vanguard". We could not take on both. (At that time we did not know Nogrow would join Vanguard in future). So, Was allying with Vanguard in the best interest of Blade? Yes!

So now, after having a good amount of defense we needed to build some offense. So while the other kingdoms were warring, we did not have a proper off team to go to war against the big kingdom. Somehow we managed to gather 10 guys and with fakes from defenders we managed to break through the defense of the big kingdom. Yes, The cowards were the first team to steal treasures and VP from the Big kingdom.

We do a second op on the big kingdom, This time they know where the real hit is. Someone within Blade off team has told them. Hammers die, but we still manage to break through. But this signals the entire server that Big Kingdom may be short on defense and Vanguard with a much much better offense team capitalizes.

Now, our deff was ready, we expected the big kingdom to strike back. But, instead we hear that they are going after Hellgate/cesko. They ask for defense and we are more than happy to defend them.

That impending attack from the Big Kingdom (not so big anymore), we are still expecting and it has never arrived. Maybe it never arrived because we were able to keep the battles off our shores in loveland and hellgate/Cesko. Was that in the best interest of Blade? Hell yes!

That big attack from the Big kingdom (not so big anymore), we are still expecting by the way and building defense for that end. Maybe, if Big kingdom applied their head a little more instead of calling others cowards, they would have fared better.

What's the fun in continuously attacking a kingdom, where even if you win, it doesn't change your status/ranking in the game. Unless of course, you just want to give the illusion that you are doing something, attacking players but in reality it is just meaningless. Even with a large premade team, You never attacked even one kingdom that mattered! who is the coward then!

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"Was being a bunch of simming cowards in the best interests of Blade? Yes"
Yeah okay, but dude, dont put in your kingdom bio "We are looking for active players. JOIN US if you are looking for a fun, active round." Just put there "We are gonna do nothing the entire round but play it safe and boring. If you're okay with that, come join us."

Also who called you cowards for going to the (50|0)? That is a standard move. Nobody called you cowards for that, you just wanna throw up a strawman cause you can't handle the criticism.

You guys have the same amount of pop as we do.

We've been close in terms of pop for quite a while.

Yet you've done absolutely nothing.

You say we were a large premade team, yet we started with 17 premades, that's not a lot.

Also, we've fought loveland, who were quite big.

We've been fighting Cesko who might not be that big, but they are hella strong and active, basically the opposite of you guys.

How utterly moronic would it have been to directly go for vanguard while we have such potential threats on our doorstep.

Bottomline is. We've done things, we've actually played the game, you still haven't. You can throw as many fake arguments as you want but you know you're talking nonsense.

Just in case you wanna speak again, make sure you fact check and stick those strawmen deep where the sun doesn't shine.

Quote from Louis#EN(20)

It's truly hilarious to me. Are you really complaining about meta? You were like the first kingdom who actually, as you nicely put "absorbed" everyone around. Who cares by which means others join your kingdom, some do it with diplomacy, some with force. Doesn't really matter as it's a question of strategy. Due to that, around Early-Mid game point, you were two-time size bigger than anyone else, so don't come here crying about meta.

Everyone cares. It is supposed to be a war game, not a simming game. We got big through force, which is the only way the game remains fun. We came here from COM7 which was a huge waste of time cause we got stuck in a kingdom like blade, doing nothing but simming and waiting for the time to use WW hammers. It is so sad to see people do nothing the entire server.

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You are putting nice stats here, which are sadly present. Rollback 2 months back and post us the VP/treasures there. You know you were way ahead from every kingdom by a mile, but you are posting stats that currently suits you and complain about your current state. Other kingdoms do tend to plan ahead, however, when you were around 2-3mil VP ahead of everyone, it seemed like you didn't really care about the future, as you nicely wasted few months crashing your hammers over and over into us(not really threatening kingdom, truly <20 players). Maybe consider changing the strats next time as that one didn't really get you anywhere.

This was never about VP or treasures. VP only matter at the end of the game. Treasures only matter cause they provide extra treasuries.
The "strats" you propose we should try are LAME. It is killing the game. "Winning" the game is not even an achievement this way. We are using hammers cause it is fun. It is what the game was made for, to wage war. Ofc you guys ain't threatening, but you are so much fun to play against. You are the first kingdom that actually fights back.

You honestly think I am complaining cause of our chances to win or something like that? I am complaining about people making this game LAME and BORING. You are just butthurt cause you sure as hell ain't gonna win, which apparently, is important to you.

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It's nice that you call Blade cowards, but it seems that their(boring) strategy worked better than yours.

"worked better" towards what goal? Sitting on your asses, claiming a medal that you can show off in the next rounds where you are gonna do the exact same boring stuff?

No thanks. Our strategy has worked fine. I never stuck to the meta in any type of game simply cause its no fun, no netdecks, no looking up builds, none of that makes the game fun.

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I'm not really big fan of their PVE style, but hey, it's not like you have tried to harm/stop/attack Vanguard either so, yeeaah.

One at a time. Either submit, quit, or stop crying, then we can move on.

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The initial agreement between Blade, NoGrow, and Vanguard was ONLY to slow down Wonder. At the time you guys were growing out of control, and using proxies (like Fox and Avengers) to wage war on others (Loveland first, and then Cesko/Hellgate).

We did not want this mega. It was a response to the one you formed. Our intentions were to wipe out NoGrow from the start. NoGrow wasn't nearly as strong as you guys...and no disrespect, but it wouldn't have been close. We didn't necessarily want a deal with them, but it seemed the only logical response to your own alliance.

I still do not understand how you complain about us teaming up to hit you while you did the same to Loveland and then to Cesko. So please, don't complain about something you started.

Your attempts to get us to attack them are amusing. Why not pick a fight directly with Blade? Why run behind me and ask me to fight for YOU!? That's what you want, no?

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1. We never used Fox as proxy, they operated on their own. We had players in almost every kingdom in the +/+ quadrant. Ramez was one of us from the start, only joined fox to keep his capital safe. Ramez was the only one from Fox participating against Loveland.

2. If you didn't want the meta then you shouldn't have made it. You can still stop ruining the game and break up the meta.

3. You hide behind the argument of "oh but wonder too big" well guess what? We actually fought for most of our players or were in position to do so if people didn't cooperate. Viper would have been wiped if they hadn't agreed to the NLM terms of union. The other kingdom to the north east of viper (forgot the name) was cleared and their players absorbed.

Avengers and Avenger (2 different kingdoms) basically surrendered after their leadership had proven inadequate. Vitamin, wiped. We also wiped the Spanish kingdom (CREDO I believe) to the west of the 0|0 WW.

4. We complain about blade not doing anything. They have earned nothing this server. We complain about you guys defending them (in the moral sense of the word).

5. TO THIS MOMENT YOU STILL HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ACTIVE TO "STOP" US. You just agree not to fight each other... cowards. Pretty much all kingdoms that were active at some point were so because we fought them. There are only 3 exceptions: Vanguard, Fox, and NOGROW.

Seriously go play the game and fight a bit.

If it were up to Design we would have absorbed Cesko and Loveland when they were open to it. Then the game would instantly have turned into a 1 against all. NLM and Viper leaders prevented that. It was our attempt to make the game interesting and so far it actually has been. But now the numbers 1, 3 and 4 team up against the number 2, basically we're outnumbered 2to1. Either of you could have just faced us fair and square and you wonder why we complain about your alliance. This should be a 3-way brawl, not a mexican standoff.

Holy moly you guys really can't handle being confronted about your terrible game ethics.

These are the kingdoms:

#1 + #3 + #4 + #10 = 969.862
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#2 + #5 + #11 = 532.490

You call that even?

Keep in mind we've fought several neighbors for their subjugation. Not saying others didn't cause I don't know.

Also, Cesko/Hellgate lost at least a few cities and players to our attacks, they used to be a LOT more.

But none of that matters.

This matters:

As you can see there are only 4 kingdoms that earned their place in this server.

Though blade has roughly the same total as ЛИС, you can't really count them cause their average is nihil.

Vanguard got most of their defpoints through deffing Cesko/Hellgate if I recall correctly.

Attack stats can't be trusted cause robbers still count.

Blade are passive cowards who lie in their profile "We are looking for active players. JOIN US if you are looking for a fun, active round.".

You've not been active and you haven't contributed anything to the fun of the game.

Vanguard, if you are any kind of proverbial "man", start some shit with blade, make them earn whatever place they end.

We could help, but we've got too much fun with Cesko/Hellgate.

Hellgate can still win (win as in, against us) if vanguard keeps deffing them.

Yeah, all these cowards sitting back and simming.

Blade just avoided any conflict, 0 off plans, 0 def actions. 325,289 def points... they have almost that much in terms of pop.

Vanguard just has an NAP with blade cause.... idk, they are a bunch of wussies.

Only RedRocs, Hellgate and Loveland are actually playing.

Vanguard NAPs everyone so they can just only attack wonder without any kind of real risk cause they know we've still got our hands full with shooting down hellgate.

Vanguard is just fighting a proxy war, where they have 0 risk of losing any villages.
My GOODNESS is this game boring. We could have easily finished the game by now if we indeed had just absorbed kingdoms instead of fighting them... But what would be the fun in that?

Blade is an NPC faction that is there to build a wonder to lvl 100 and end the game. They just mark the end of the game for the rest of us.

They won't "win" cause nobody lost to them. They didn't beat anyone.

Pathetic.

Go play the game, start some shit.

Kuddos to loveland, hellgate and redrocs.

Redrocs can't do anything significant but they are very annoying.

Loveland were a bunch of multis but regardless, tried to make a stand, even after their royals went inactive.

Hellgate... you guys are something. You are doing everything you can to make it hard for us.

Is there an overview somewhere of what is on the list already so we don't make unnecessary threads?

10% bonus means that a club who normally can carry 60 res, will carry 66 res, if the hero is also in the attack.

Yes

Change the default number to 1, just like with stolen resources. Nobody ever wants to turn in the full amount of transferred resources cause it always would cause overflowing.

I hate that bit of anxiety of "oh what if the game bugs and it still turns in all my resources".

It is also something very minor and really easy to fix.

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I'm aware of that, but that's possible with ingame tabs aswell and not a rule violation or anything.

In game tabs are restricted to these rules:
< 3h: 1 wave

3-6h: 2 waves

6-12h: 3 waves

> 12h: 4 waves

If you have a target > 12h then you have 4 waves land at 00:00:00.

If you then upgrade the Tournament Square again, you can again send 4 waves to land at 00:00:00
With this you can have way more than the 4 wave limit land at the exact same second.

A bit high indeed, but nothing too extreme.

Starting price for the regen armor was 10k silver, that was pretty cool.

The farmlist tip is exclusive as far as I know. I've never been able to pull it off in legends.

1 sec between own troops returning and enemy landing I have been able to do in legends.

But I am talking about same second snipes.

I think it is because kingdoms checks incoming troops, then checks if those troops are being used that second for outgoing attacks, and THEN checks if those troops are being used for incoming attacks (so on the defense).

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I don´t hate fast settling, but what about give it a go in a server for non gold users? That would put manny players equal.

You can fast settle with starting gold.

You start with 40 gold.
10 gold goes to plus for a few days (tip, use a referral link to spawn with 50 gold and free plus for a week)

12 for insta completing main building levels.

Leaves you with 18 for the academy, granary, and maybe a warehouse level.

You can get a few more gold by selling items.

You will indeed no longer have the option to NPC crop to res in your fast settled cropper.

Anyway, you can fast settle without buying gold.

How many times did you relocate?
On all game worlds I've played since this update I've relocated 1x and had robbers spawn 4 hours after the relocation.

I did not fully clear any of the robbers before relocating.

Quote from Mayo

spawning closer to a cropper is a random advantage just like adventures, above you said we shouldn't rely on luck lol

You're clearly too lazy to read my messages carefully.

Quote from Pinkguy#NL

Training time for sure needs to be equalized.
Training costs can be equalized through the quest reward. I'd rather see it all equalized tho.

And yes you can "compensate" by getting closer, but you shouldn't have to rely on luck that much.

but you shouldn't have to rely on luck that much.

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And there wasn't speed settling in 2015/2016/early 2017, it was like any other server tbh, the problem with speedsettling is the menhiring that comes with it afterwards, you start withba 15c cropper and you have the tributes of 15 players capital right away

Speed settling was already a thing well before the menhirs. It was a thing in travian legends and people were doing it during the kingdoms beta as well. Just because there wasn't a forum thread about it doesn't mean it didn't exist.

You clearly have your issues with menhirs but I'd kindly request you keep those out of this thread.

The menhirs aren't what is making a bunch of Gauls RESERVE 15c for others, or just settling them, demolishing their starting vil and then going inactive just so people can't access the cropper for the first 21+ days.

The imbalance of tribes in the fast settle context is opening up the game to GRIEFING.

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And if u want to give the same chances to all tribe at that you need to rethink every other aspect of the game, otherwise some tribes are better than others for certain things

I only talk in the context of speed settling. Other parts of the game are not being debated here.
Unique aspects of all tribes were always an important characteristic of travian and always will be. I fully support that.

You've intentionally misrepresented every proposition I've made in this thread.

So, how about you take your strawman arguments and shove them where the sun doesn't shine?

Wave builder

Kingdoms has a built in wave builder where you can set up all your attacks and just spam the send button.

Using any other means to circumvent the wave limitations, like doing it Legends style, is considered an exploit. (and is perhaps a bannable offense?)

Dodging

You can't set entire army to dodge in capital with hero. Instead you have boots of the chicken which allow your hero + a limited amount of troops to dodge.

Quests with CP

The townhall quest gives 800 cp, not the small celebration.

Small celebration quest gives 500 cp.

Large celebration quest gives 2000 cp (needs verification) and some resources.

Card game

There is this abomination called the "Card game" which is basically a lootbox system where you gamble absurd amounts of gold to get unique bonuses such as extra space for buildings (max 2 per village).

It is virtually impossible to actually come out on top with this system. You basically roll to get the unique things like gems for your equipment, secret adventures, or building space. Whenever you don't get these you'll find yourself doing damage control, selecting things that are worth the most... but you'll still come out with less value than you had in terms of pure gold.

Finally a special tip.

If you have an incoming snipe, you can dodge it by doing your farmlists.

Example: 1k clubs returning from attack, snipe landing same second. You make a farmlist entry for 1k clubs. You spam that button like crazy when your troops are about to return and the snipe lands. Your troops will not be home for the snipe. For the hero, rams, catapults you just put on chicken boots.

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Don't know how this is in Legends cause I always played def there, but Kingdoms has a limit on outgoing attacks, 999 to be exact.

For teutons this is a big limitation to their late game farming compared to the other tribes who have fast cavalry.

Quote from Mayo

Well then we need to change adventures as well, spawning of robbers hideouts,, and another tons of things to make it fair but then its not a race. The fun in it is the random variable as well, the stress of not knowing if you will be first or not, the adrenaline rush of the first day!

One thing we can agree on, is removal of menhir, that gives an unfair advantage to big kingdoms or premades

What? Dude... way to go with the assumptions and taking the story out of context. Your comment has nothing to do with any of what I said.

It is perfectly fine to get a random advantage, I never said anything against those.

I have a problem with the constant advantage of the Gauls over the other tribes in this particular strategy.

The only context in which I mentioned random advantages is that other tribes need a random advantage to compensate for the constant advantage that the Gauls have.

It'd require an INSANE random advantage to make up for 2 hours settle time that the Gauls can save.

Still, main topic remains. Fast settle should be abolished for one server just to see how things play out.

Side topic is that all tribes should have equal chances at fast settling.

Quote from Be2-e4

Unfair advantage is relative. Yes, you could be finished an hour earlier (or maybe two), but spawning randomly few fields further away from a good cropper will just equalize that advantage. Also if you're playing as gaul you have to live with not being able to play as off player. In general, all "solutions" will have some way which is the quickest to settle and gauls will always be quicker because of cost + time. If that is a problem and if someone should change it, then equalize cost + training time for settlers for all three tribes.

Training time for sure needs to be equalized.
Training costs can be equalized through the quest reward. I'd rather see it all equalized tho.

And yes you can "compensate" by getting closer, but you shouldn't have to rely on luck that much.

Quote from Mycro#EN

And what would be the fun in that? Everyone is able to follow the guide, easy to find on forum. Making it all natar will just demotivate the newer players who don't dare to take one on yet to get a good cropper.

Because gauls have an unfair advantage. This results in people being forced to go gaul if they want the fast settle OR, some gaul, usually 0 prestige, just straight up getting a cropper and later deleting so someone else can claim it.

Also, new players shouldn't get croppers. They don't know how to use them. New players will most CERTAINLY not do a fast settle.

Still, just once a server without it, lets see how things turn out.

Edit: I am not saying you can't fast settle without going gaul, I am just saying they have an unfair advantage in terms of settler cost and settler training time.