Have a travian management team that would really try to fix the game/fix bug.
There's way too many issues with this game.
And the travian team doesn't seem to care to try improving the game.
All they want is to use minimal resources to maintain the game.
If the company is not willing to improve the game, better close the server of travian kingdom.
LIHKG is going to join the coming speed server starting on 30/3.
As some of our core team have already played consecutively for a number of servers, we will have a really long break after the server.
And given the travian kingdom inflat the price with no significant improvements to the game, that also kind of forces us to leave this once a wonderful game.
Hope more teams can join in this coming server and let us have the last fight with you guys!
e)Dukes and kings. Very little choice for defensive nobles here, its teuton and teuton only. First of all, defense bonus of the wall really matters. Second, upgraded paladins make really good farming troops and pay for themselves, where as gaul cavalry does not.
I mean, you'll not try to defend a treasury simply because the king/duke is Teuton right?
I'm not saying Teuton wall is weak. I'm just saying you'll probably defend based on your information to guess where the enemy is attacking, instead of just because the player's tribe.
So if you got info that the enemy is attacking a roman king, you'll still defend him anyway.
And second, from my experience dualing one of the best defense king, he plays Gaul and build TT to raid, and made to top 2/3 robber for almost every week for a very long time.
With King/Duke having the most resources, you'll want them to have the most defensive unit if played as defense. And as you said before, Gaul always generate the most defense/hour.
That's why I think Gaul is the optimal choice for defensive king.
In terms of farming, I think Teuton has the worst farming because of the speed of the troops and the limit of 999 outbound waves each village can send.
So Roman and Gaul can usually farm more because EI and TT can farm quicker, such that they can send more waves within the same period of time.
Display MoreChosing tribe 2.0. Types of accounts
Sure, you can play anything. But since travian is a math game, there is always an ultimate solution. Do the math described in previous chapter and you shall see.
a)Defensive governor. Gauls are the ultimate choice. Teutates are best troop for farming due to their capacity and speed. Farm with teutates and build phalanx everywhere. If you have extra resources to spend, haeduans actually make really good defensive troop.
Another option is teuton. Teuton defenders make best dukes and kings due to wall bonus, yet for governor gaul is just much easier.
What about praetorian? Phalanx makes almost two times stronger defense, per hour.
b)Offensive governor. There are two basic types of offensive- hammer and rammer. Rammer is someone who is there to take down wall, and hammer is there to take down buildings/troops.
Teutons make absolutely best rammers, due to their speed of ram production, multiplied by the brewery bonus. Standard composition is clubs+tk+rams.
For hammers, romans have the highest catapult production in game.
c)End game rammer. This is rammer, typically designed to take down wall of World Wonder. Usually such rammer is developed but never used for entire server duration, and only comes out last week. Typically owner of the rammer has satellite rammer just to fight robbers. These are rammers you see in Hall of Fame, typically 200k troops and more. It is really hard to feed, I would recommend going with axe+tk+rams composition, as cost to maintain clubs gets just insane.
d)End game hammer. This would be romans. Main task is to take down levels of World Wonder, and number of catapults that can be produced by romans is suited best for the task.
e)Dukes and kings. Very little choice for defensive nobles here, its teuton and teuton only. First of all, defense bonus of the wall really matters. Second, upgraded paladins make really good farming troops and pay for themselves, where as gaul cavalry does not. Doing so, consider using low population morale bonus. I have never had a chance to try it, but calculations are very promising.
If you choose offense- sure, go ahead with romans, but find out someone else to store treasures.
f)Ghost. This is terminology for strong cavalry unit that attacks treasury, before defensive troops can get there. It is most effectively used middle of the game, and roman EI make the best choice.
g)Interceptor. Typically made out of gaul haeduans, unit is there to catch ghosts. Most teams have one or two of those. Slow and not very effective haeduans really shine when catching surprise attacks.
h)Scout hammer. Some people like building tens of thousands of scouts and sneak peek on other kingdoms. I find no use for this. Most big hammers are constantly farming, anyways.
i)Catapult account. I've seen it a couple times, roman governors without good cropper capital build catapults in every village and send them to follow other players rammers. Roman senators also make the best chiefs.
Economics
Have you ever wondered how to assess what other players have?
Depending on surrounding oases, regular village roughly provides 6k resources per hour.
Capital can be anything, from similar 6k on newbie 6c account, to 80-100k per hour.
How to spot this? Keep an eye at “Top 10 robbers”. This is actually, the most important indicator of player development. Kings and dukes do not fall into this calculation due to tributes, but for others it is extremely accurate.
Same goes for kingdoms, “Top 10 kingdom robbers” shows who is who in world of Travian Kingdoms.
Why this matters- cost to build troops in all 5 buildings is about 100k per hour for roman EC hammer, and 80k for teuton building axe hammer. Everyone else in that range.
Once you start troop production in all 5 facilities, you are building troops that consume 2.5 to 4k crop per hour, per day.
Very quickly, within a month any player gets in the situation when farming is mandatory for troop support. And this is where top 10 comes handy. You simply can not hide anything over 100 thousand troops without farming, and not showing up on the list.
Some in game tricks
1)As a good habit, have two-three cheapest troops defending grey villages and other kingdoms treasuries. This way you will see the attacking army and scale losses of the defender.
2)Don't spike, this ruins game for everyone. Remember- good players farm, and when you get good, you will farm too.
3)Keep an eye on hero experience, attack and defense ratings. All this information matters, just need to learn use it properly.
4)Always run simulations before attacking a known target.
5)Having side hammer to clear out robbers works out better than unnecessary wasting your main hammer.
6)Farm. I can not emphasize how important it is.
7)Early stages of the game, it is really beneficial to clean out those 9 pop grey villages. They typically have 3200 resources and a hero. Clean up them with hero and then raid by troops. Use gold to heal/resurrect your own hero.
8)Always try to make sure farming troops bring good return. Stop farming villages that are giving you less than 30-40%, they are not worth your time. If you really get into control, try to go only after those that give you 80%+ return.
9)Farming clubs pay for themselves in just 3 days, yet very soon you will hit maximum outgoing troop limit, that is 999. Always plan ahead to farm with horses.
10)Tournament square helps to farm all across a map. This immensely helps with staying under 999 limit
11)Always try to farm with minimum amount of troops possible. If you see that 1 soldier always comes back full, increase the number
12)As soon as you develop catapults, consider taking down palace/residence and walls of some grey villages around you. At times, you will be the only one farming this village for several days.
13)If army in grey village is too big, send 1 troop reinforcement. You will know when its clear.
14)Research Engin9tools and Kirilloid inside out, these third party servers provide a great deal of helpful information and data about the game.
15)Always develop your capital. Crop fields>troops in the first 60 days. Run from those who tell you otherwise. Their style is crash and quit. Consider going to at least level 15, and 17-18 if you're serious.
16)Always upgrade troops to maximum and siege robbers. This brings your costs to minimum
17)Another tactics is to clean out robbers and leave some resources in the camp. This way robbers stop coming, and you have perfect hiding spot just for yourself.
18)Talk to people, ask questions. There is a great deal of helpful players out there.
19)Keep an eye on cavalry defense vs infantry defense. There is nothing more terrifying than a dozen of teuthates or a single hero cutting hundreds of clubs.
20)Use herobombing- tactics of suicide killing hero. Helps clear robbers or troops of overly aggressive players.
21)Early stages of the game, try killing enemy hammers on their way back. Dodge the attack, and then calculate return time- catch them and kill same second. Doing so even with a single hero does wonders. You can calculate travel time on Kirilloid
Lastly, a bit about myself-
I have played this game for 6 servers start to finish, 3 of them with BM as governor, dual king, and dual governor. I would like to thank my team for all support and camaraderie during these years. Com2 was my last server, and I am not coming back.
Unfortunately beautiful era of Travian for me is over.
As a postscriptum, I encourage everyone to try and beat two currently standing world records, which I am part of along with [BM]Jak and [BM]Mayo, one of which is largest def score ever recorded on x1 speed server, another one is fastest completion of the capital to level 18(king, 49 days).
Thanks for your sharing.
One thing I don't understand though, why would you think playing defensive as kings/dukes would play Teutons as an optimal tribe?
A king can simply build some TT to raid if he wants. And as a king usually have the most resources, he eventually can build a lot of defense to protect members withiin the kingdom
The wall bonus doesn't really matter when you're a king/duke and the kingdom is under attack?
A normal team would just attack most of the treasury village and you won't choose which village to defend based on the tribe, right?
So I personally prefer Gauls to be the choice of defense for king/duke, because king usually have village spread all over the map because of the need to activate treasury in different location.
And Gauls have one of the fastest defending troops, Druidrider, which can reinforce almost everyone within kingdom.
Display MoreOk, I understand the issue you mention, but it may not be an easy thing to do.
The results of the attacks are calculated at point of impact, and when they were sent doesn't come into account at all.
On the other hand, I personally feel that the way it is gives an extra dimension to the strategy and it brings some unknowns into the mix... that is always good since it makes the game more unpredictable and, in my opinion, more fun.
What does every one else think about it?
Thanks Unknown for the reply.
I do understand your point of view.
However, I think, at least from the wordings of truce itself, is to hope to let players relax and have a holiday, not to be afraid of being attacked.
There is a lot of way to make the game unpredictable.
However I don't think that is one of the appropriate way bringing this kind of surprise to the game.
It is a pure abuse especially to teams who are good at defense, taking away their ability to try having a nice defense.
I personally think this breaks the balance of the game.
If that is really one way of bringing such a extra dimension, then it better be something that every server have, or something that only appears in a night truce server. For normal server, I don't think it's a good idea to have such a mechanics.
Regarding the implementation of the improvement, I have no idea of how to implement.
But given that the administrator got all the data like the travelling time, the sending time, the landing time, etc.
I think it is doable.
Currently, when truce came, any attack that landed within the period are considered invalid.
However if you send attack within the truce period and land right after the end of the truce, the attack is still considered valid.
This brings huge disadvantages to the defender. As there is nothing you can do to try scouting others attack during truce period, while the attacker can safely send all the attack without being scouted.
Of course you can argue that you can also send attack to the opponent.
However it doesn't seem to be the idea of truce from administrator's perspective.
You're not supposed to gain any advantages with the introduction of truce. It's a period to give you peace.
Therefore I proposed to have an enhancement on the mechanics of truce.
Attack that sent during truce are also considered invalid, no matter the landing time is within truce or not.
This way the attacker cannot take any advantages from the truce. And defenders can do what they can as it is like the normal time.
The game will be more balance(or back to normal) with the introduction of such enhancement.
Yes, there should be a new 3x server in June.
Hi Georgi,
It would be great if there is a new normal speed server in June. The previous two night truce speed server is a huge disadvantage for non-European. That's why i am not joining any of those server. Although i don't have the database, i believe a lot of the non-European speed server player feels the same as me. More than 3 months waiting for a normal speed server is a bit too long.
Really appreciate if there is a chance of having a normal speed server in June. Thank.
